Achievement Without Fulfillment and Perfectionism with Brad Bizjack

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This week on the Less Stressed Life, we’re reframing the grind. Mindset strategist Brad Bizjack joins me to explore why “I’ll be happy when” keeps high achievers stuck and how to set your emotional thermostat, choose a more resourceful state for the next room, and create success without sacrificing fulfillment.

We dig into the difference between pain and suffering, a simple body breath focus recipe to shift emotions fast, how to trade attachment and perfection for purpose and detachment, and why moving from away-from motivation to a toward-purpose fuel source changes everything.

If you’ve ever tied your worth to productivity, kept pushing the goalpost, or felt anxious even when things are going right, this conversation offers clear language, practical tools, and real-life examples you can use today.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:
• Choose the most resourceful state for the next room
• Thermostat over thermometer: reset your emotional home
• Shift state with body, breath, and focus
• Trade expectations for appreciation to regain power
• Detachment means supporting the dream without letting it own you
• Perfection is the lowest standard and guarantees pain
• Self-sabotage is often a drive for safety; create safe evidence for growth

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ABOUT GUEST:

Brad Bizjack is a personal development expert and master mindset strategist who has helped over 75,000 people in more than 40 countries rewire how they think, feel, and live. As the CEO of a multi seven figure transformational coaching company, his work focuses on helping people break limiting beliefs, rewrite their stories, and create extraordinary success with lasting fulfillment. When he’s not speaking or coaching, Brad is husband to Janiece, dad to Lily, and happiest on the lake with his family.

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TRANSCRIPT:

[00:00:00] Brad Bizjack: you don't have to force the emotions that would make you the most comfortable.

You wanna put yourself in a state that is most resourceful for the outcome you're looking for in the next room.

[00:00:09] Christa Biegler, RD: I'm your host Christa Biegler, and I'm going to guess we have at least one thing in common that we're both in pursuit of a less stressed life. On the show, I'll be interviewing experts and sharing clinical pearls from my years of practice to support high performing health savvy women in pursuit of abundance and a less stressed life.

One of my beliefs is that we always have options for getting the results we want. So let's see what's out there together. 

[00:01:02] Christa Biegler, RD: All right. Today on the Less Stressed Life I have Brad Bizjack, who is a personal development expert and a master at Mindset strategist who's helped over 75,000 people across over 40 countries rewire how they think, feel, and live as a multi seven figure CEO of a transformational coaching company.

Brad's mission is simple but powerful to help people. Break generational chains of mediocrity and create the extraordinary success and freedom they're meant for. For more than a decade, he's been guiding ambitious dreamers to break free from limiting beliefs and toxic thought patterns that quietly sabotage their potential.

And his work goes beyond motivation. It's about real lasting subconscious transformation. Behind the screen, behind the stage, he's husband to his wife, Janice, and dad, to their daughter Lily. And so when he is not coaching or speaking, you'll find him on the lake. With his family, which is makes so much sense in a landlocked Illinois.

Brad, welcome 

[00:01:55] Brad Bizjack: to the show. What an introduction. Glad to be here, my friend. Thanks so much for having me. 

[00:02:01] Christa Biegler, RD: In reality, what was happening before I hit record was. Brad was trying to give me dad jokes and so that may have so many set. There's, that might set the tone of our conversation. He is got like this humor and he is very giggly, so we'll see what, we'll see what pops up today.

I met Brad last month at an event in Arizona and he told me that day that he does ice pick lobotomies for a profession and then he tried to pull the same joke out when it started a moment ago. Did I? Okay. Not the first time. This is typically jokes. This is called 

[00:02:32] Brad Bizjack: reverse edification, by the way.

[00:02:34] Christa Biegler, RD: This is what happened. As a wife, I often feel like, has everyone heard this story 12 times dear? I have heard this story. It's been a little less, so I'm sure Janice sometimes feels the same way with rad. Absolutely. Alright, let's talk about how you got into this field. The mindset, personal development, state.

Space, what was going on in your life before all of this happened? What was the catalyst to creating where you are now? 

[00:03:01] Brad Bizjack: Yeah. It's funny, I crack dad jokes and have a great time and I never take life too seriously. But this, getting into the personal development space did start from more of a serious place.

When I started this journey, I was $92,000 in debt. I was struggling paycheck to paycheck. I had just graduated college trying to figure out what I was gonna do. At that stage in my life, my number one craving was financial freedom. I wanted choice in my life. I wanted to be able to do the things I wanted to do and, add avocado without having to worry about the three bucks, right?

Like I wanted financial freedom, but if I'm being totally honest. What I really wanted at that season, in that season was to be the breaking point of mediocrity in my family history, right? I wanted to have something where I could give my future kids a life that I never got to have. And so I found online business that was my vehicle, and I did all the things.

I worked incredibly hard. I studied the books, the podcast, the courses, and nothing seemed to work. And I would get in my head like, why isn't this happening for me? And I would see other people's success. And take it to mean that it was my failure. And I remember just being in states where I would find myself on the couch watching friends reruns, feeling sorry for myself and eating a plate of microwave nachos, and I would see my laptop staring at me, begging me to change my life.

And even though I didn't care, I cared so much. And my mentor at the time told me like, dude, you need a mindset coach. And I was like, mindset. That's ridiculous. Why would I need a mindset coach? Because back then I thought mindset meant positivity. It's so much more than that, right? And I thought if nothing changes.

Nothing changes. So I hired a coach and on our very first call she said something that fundamentally shifted how I think about success. I was telling her all the same things and why isn't it working for me? I'm doing all the things right. I'm working so hard. And she said, Brad. You're so attached to success that you're missing the whole point.

Like you're under the impression that you shouldn't be where you are right now. That somehow business success and money is gonna make you more happy. It's not business success and money that's gonna lead to happiness. It's rewiring your mind for happiness and fulfillment that will lead you to success, and that shifted.

How I went about creating success. I started studying how the mind works and limiting beliefs and thoughts and emotions and subconscious program, all this stuff. And from what I've learned in that journey and just what I've dedicated the last 13 years to it. It allowed us to change our financial circumstances by a huge stretch and retire my wife and be the present dad that I always wanted to be and experience fulfillment along the way.

Because I realized that was the key. And now I'm on a mission to help people not only succeed more, but how do we be fulfill. As we're striving. 'cause I think a lot of people don't, they think I'll be happy when I'm successful or when something changes and they give their personal power away to that.

And so I really work on how do we achieve all the biggest dreams we want and feel alive on the path to getting there. And so that's just a little bit of background. 

[00:06:06] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. This reminds me, I was actually at a retreat last week. I was helping host a retreat last week and I was talking about

if we had a room full of people and I asked people who is where they want to be in life, probably no one would raise their hand, right? Because we like to go ahead and just shift the goalposts down the field. And so much of what you said right there is extremely relatable and I think about how in your origin story you believed that this.

This vision of greatness, which may have continued to move down the field, you may have accomplished things and been like, I have not broken the chain of mediocrity yet of my family. You may have believed that changing some kind of circumstance or fact about your life was the thing that was going to give you, the greatest happiness overall.

And I see that with people a lot, right? We're giving our power away. It's safe to say that coach. The catalyst in changing your life completely. So let's talk about how I wanna just unpack a little bit more about what you said there, about how we often think that circumstances are gonna be the thing, what are some other tangible examples of this?

Like, when I make this money, I will have this. When I move over here, I will have this. When I blah, blah, blah, I will have this. How do we create. How do we change that right now? How do we change how we're thinking right now? So that way we're not just always digging for this never ending finish line.

[00:07:29] Brad Bizjack: Yeah. If I think about if you ask yourself the goals and dreams that you're after right now, and I'm guessing for people listening that they're after big things, right? Like they're after really cool things in their life. And if not that's a place to start, right? Is looking at is the lock you're trying to open or the ladder you're trying to climb.

Is it the right lock? Is the ladder leaning up against the right wall? Is it actually something that moves you and inspires you? But what a lot of people do is they say, I'll be happy when I make more money or when I'm in that next job, or when the business grows, or when my kids behave. And I want you to ask yourself, whatever your goals and dreams are, what do you think it'll bring you that's not present in your life right now?

And a lot of people will tell me, freedom, happiness, joy, all these things. And I always ask a follow up question to that, and it's. Why can't you experience those things Now, whoever took those things from you, because no one ever took happiness. No one ever took freedom. And when we say that a goal is gonna make us feel a certain way or a dream is gonna make us feel a certain way.

We're giving all of our power away to that circumstance changing. And when we give all our power away to a circumstance changing, we have very little personal power left to do something about our circumstances. So we end up resisting our circumstances, making where we are right now. Wrong, and whatever you resist persists, right?

It's a cliche for a reason. But to the degree in which you can accept what is the degree in which you have the ability to change it. And this just became very real for me in my life, probably about three years ago. You mentioned the goalpost keeps moving and I see a lot of high achievers do this where they'll achieve a goal and they don't even have a moment to celebrate it.

Like if I ask everyone here, what's the biggest goal you've ever achieved and how long did the juice of that last. Before you were stressed about the next thing most people would say Three weeks. Three days. Three minutes. And this happened in my life where we had created a great business. We had all the, the success in air quotes, right?

We had the beautiful house on the lake and the money and the boats and the toys and all the fun things. And I remember one day like when you're in this state of, I'll be happy when your life ends up being rush. And then I need to escape. Rush. I need to escape.

And I was in the state of, I've been rushing and hustling for so long. I needed to escape. So I took the jet ski out, right? And I was on the lake, beautiful sunny day, and I found myself pissed off on a jet ski. Now. I have never seen somebody pissed off on a jet ski, right? That's not a thing. And it was an indication, dude, you, something's gotta change because achievement without fulfillment is the ultimate failure in life, right?

There's nothing more annoying than a pissed off rich person or stressed out rich person, right? The first thing is that we need to do is we need to stop giving our power away to this. Goal or this dream, and we can talk about how to do that in just a moment if you'd like. The second thing that we need to take a look at is what's the reason for creating it?

I think a lot of times in the path to success, and this is one of the reasons why the goalpost keeps moving, is because the fuel source that drove you up until now is not the same fuel source that's gonna lead to what you want next in a lot of cases, right? So a lot of times when people try to change their life, there's this away from.

Propulsion, like think of rocket ship taking off into the atmosphere, right? And that serves you in that season to get away from a set of circumstances and they, you think, okay, if I get there, I'll feel better. But one of the reasons why the goalposts moves is because a lot of times people don't recognize that the reason they're running out of energy is because the fuel source has started to change.

And what got you here isn't gonna get you there. The fuel source of away from may not be sustainable. So if you've ever seen Apollo 13, right when the rocket takes off into the atmosphere and then the fuel canisters fall off and there's that wait list moment, and then the rocket boosters kicking in and it goes right, we need to find what's the.

The new fuel source and typically that's a towards fuel source, a purpose, a mission a contribution, something so much bigger than what got us off the ground is the thing that's gonna sustain us. So we can go any direction with that, but that's one of the main reasons why that happens. And it ultimately comes down to not giving your power away or letting a circumstance dictate your emotional state.

That is the number one thing that we need to be able to do to break through that. 

[00:11:54] Christa Biegler, RD: I wanna talk about not letting a circumstance dictate emotional state. I want to, in order to try to underline and give more power to the examples you just gave, I will attempt to insert some personal story here because I remember this for myself early on in my overall development journey.

Maybe I was chasing a specific, very early in business, a lot of times you are pulled in by financial goals. Or you're told that this is the way forward. And then for me. Also like I ran out of energy around that. I just wasn't motivated. And so recently I had changed my, I had let go of those rocket fuel things on my jet a while ago, but I wasn't finding a new fuel source.

And I think of this as you were talking. I was like, it's your why, right? What is your why? And you have to find something that's motivating. And I quit being mo and I find people do hit this point at a certain level of success is we really stop being motivated by money if we ever were in the first place.

And it's easy to be early on in profession, but recently my why changed to, oh, my kids are hitting a certain age. If I do not leverage the time we have together, I may find myself regretting it. And so I created this new why around homeschooling my kids to create core memories, like a handful of core memories on purpose.

And I found a new fuel source where I was like so excited again. And that was a personal fuel source I think. The professional version, right? So often as you talked a little bit about this, a purpose, mission, contribution, and I remember I had a business manager in my business for a long time and she was working for some businesses that were totally unrelated fields and she said, oh, I love working in these.

Business because I feel like we're really making a difference in the world. And that's something we, so often that's leadership, right? Is how are we leading forth a charge that's making a purpose mission. I don't know what the stats are around this. I'm sure you've seen this, Brad, I'm sure you probably know all about this.

It's like I. The next generation of workforce is less interested in money as much as they're interested in feeling like they're making a difference in the world overall. I don't know what those stats look 

[00:13:57] Brad Bizjack: like. Yeah. I don't know the stats off the top of my head, but I have seen things on that and it's absolutely true in spot on that there needs to be some sort of contribution or reason behind it.

And it's interesting you talked about like less of an importance on money and you'll actually find this. And the most successful people that there, there is less of an importance placed on dollars and cents. It doesn't mean that you don't measure it and use it responsibly. But there is far less of a measurement of happiness based on it. There's no personal power given away to it. It's just something that you use to measure the contribution of. How you're impacting lives, right? And and so then there's a different energy behind it. So I don't know the exact stats behind if, the new generation is driven more by this and what the percentages are.

But I do know that is, is absolutely important and imperative to reach the next level. And I want to give a caveat to this, that it might not start that way. You still might be in a place where your away from fuel source is driving you and inspiring and you want to propel away from something and that's totally okay and not a bad thing.

It's just fully understanding. And if I could elevate this 10,000 feet above what we're saying. It's just fully understanding that along the way if you get to a place where you're not as motivated, you're not as driven, you feel kinda weightless, confused. It is simply that the fuel source that got you to this point is no longer sustainable and we need to find what that towards vision is.

[00:15:23] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, totally. And I should be even more vulnerable. One, the reason it was in a way, the monetary, is because I wanted to be financially independent of my husband because it helped me feel more free overall, which for me. From an attachment perspective as a hyper independent attachment person, which is a whole conversation in itself around entrepreneurs and all of the stuff that they bring with them, right?

I don't know what is exactly said about this, but some version of why don't start a business that'll allow you to bring about all the healing that you need. Yeah, 

[00:15:53] Brad Bizjack: seriously. 

[00:15:54] Christa Biegler, RD: So you mentioned something about letting a circumstance or not letting a circumstance dictate an emotional. State, and I think that this is an extremely important thing to underline and expand and give lip service to.

So can you describe what you mean by this and give us some tangible examples? 

[00:16:10] Brad Bizjack: Sure. Suffering is never found in what happens. It's found in your perception of what happens. And I can guarantee you that there is going to be pain in your life, right? Pain is guaranteed, but suffering. That's your choice.

And it, it typically comes from a disempowering meaning we give to what happens. And so there's two sides to this. One is how do we actually create the dreams and goals that we want and what do our emotions need to be to live there? And then how do we let go of these emotional states that are.

Disempowering, right? And so with the first one, if you ask yourself the dreams and goals, I asked this question earlier, what do you perceive they'll give you? And a lot of people say, freedom, peace, happiness, joy, whatever it is. I want you to ask yourself how often you are in those states yourself right now, because the key to actually creating it is you being in those states.

But most people aren't, right? Most people are in a state of, let's say, anxiety or overwhelm or fear, right? And if we are in a state of anxiety or overwhelm or fear, you could have the best strategy in the world to create the results that you want, but you likely won't apply it in the way that it's meant to be applied.

So you don't get the results that you want. And most people think that they are a, going back to this idea of it's found in the perception of what's happening. That's where, suffering exists. A lot of people believe that they are a called a thermometer for their environment. When life is going in alignment with their expectations, then they are vibing high.

When life is out of alignment with their expectations, they're vibing super low and so their life is up and down and up and down and up and down, and it's chaos. And so a lot of people think they're a thermometer when really they are a thermostat. And most people don't recognize that they have an emotional home that they go back to.

Even if it's not comfortable, even if your house is messy, you still go home to it. And this emotional home you go back to is typically the emotion that you have. Frequently practiced or the one that you feel the most comfortable experiencing. And the brain right, is a survivalist. It's a world class survivalist.

Its job is to keep you alive and it values familiarity. So let's say that anxiety is the one that you know, it's familiar. What's very interesting is that living in anxiety. Feels safer to a lot of people than joy and happiness, because anxiety is I get my butt going. I put the pressure on, I'm after it.

And if I'm happy and I'm joyful, I'm gonna lose my urgency. I'm gonna lose my motivation. And so a lot of people feel that these empowering emotions are actually threats to their safety when they're not. If we have a thermostat set at a certain temperature, and let's say this is a range of zero to a hundred degrees, just making this up as a metaphor.

Zero degrees is the deepest, darkest depression you've ever experienced, and a hundred degrees, that's your unconditional love, deep appreciation vibe, and high, right? Let's say that your thermostat is set to 65 degrees, overwhelm and anxiety. And let's say something really tough happens in your life and your perception of that event is really troublesome.

Your emotions drop to say 20 degrees, depression, sadness, whatever it is, and you'll experience it, but the furnace kicks on and it will rise the temperature back up eventually to. 65. To anxiety, right to overwhelm. But the opposite is also true. If, let's say things are going really well and you can feel this societal heaviness right now, that the other shoe's gonna drop, something's gonna go wrong, right?

If let's say things start going really well and it's 95 degrees outside, it can't be that good. I can't experience that much pleasure, that much joy. I can't celebrate that much. Something's gonna go wrong. What if it all falls apart? What if everything I built isn't gonna stay? And we don't allow ourselves to enjoy.

We don't allow ourselves to feel those beautiful sensations because the AC kicks on and it drops the temperature right back down to 65, right back down to your emotional home. So the question becomes then how do we change it? And changing your emotions is actually something that every single person has the ability to do.

It starts by recognizing that there is no negative emotion and that all emotions serve you. If you are experiencing the emotion of anger that can serve you at certain times in your life, right? Let's say someone was attacking my kid. I hope that would never happen. Anger would be a very valuable emotion in that situation, right?

But a lot of times people will resist uncomfortable emotions because they're uncomfortable, and if we resist an uncomfortable emotion, it starts to compound. Everyone's had those dark nights of the soul where they find themselves at two in the morning starting to get anxious, and then they're start getting anxious about their anxiety, and then they're up calculating their bank account at, trying to figure out if they're gonna be okay with the mortgage and they want their spouse to wake up and comfort them, but they don't wanna be perceived as weak and all these, that stacks and it builds this near panic attack because we're making the uncomfortable emotion wrong when, if we would just accept, wow, I'm experiencing anxiety.

I must care a lot about the future. The anxiety dissipates 'cause we never made it wrong. So one of the greatest keys to these uncomfortable emotions disappearing is to welcome them. The second way to change them is to start looking at what you're doing with your physical body. There's a reason why after you start exercising, you feel better.

It's a completely different biochemistry, right? So if you are in a lower state, you're likely doing different things with your body. If you are, if I were to ask you right now, unless you're driving or operating heavy machinery, put your body in a state of anxiety right now. What does your body do when it's in anxiety?

You'll notice your energy goes downward, your eyes go down, your shoulders round forward, your breathing goes more shallow, right? And the energy is pushing down. But if I were to tell you, put yourself in a state of excitement right now, shoulders go back. You're talking faster, you're breathing faster, there's a completely different energy.

And so one of the things you can do to change your emotions, and I do this before every call, I ask myself, what emotional state would best serve me in this next room? And then I will put my body in the physical state of that emotion. So we're filming a podcast right now. Passion, excitement, mission, purpose.

Those are emotions that I wanna live in. So I'm doing things with my body, like I'm doing high knees, I'm doing burpees before we do these sessions to get my biochemistry different, to be aligned with the emotions I want. And the third thing that I do is I take a look at where my focus is going, and I direct my focus intentionally.

Whatever you focus on, you will create more of. Most people don't recognize it when you are focused on what is wrong. You will see it everywhere. When you are focused on the past, you will continue experiencing things just like the past. And so if we take a look at the direction of your focus, there's three patterns that people tend to live in, and every single person does all of these.

But I want you to see where your center of gravity is. Pattern number one. Do you tend to focus more on what you appreciate or what's missing? And we all do both. But where do you tend to live? Pattern number two. Do you tend to focus more on what you can control or can't control? We all do both. But where do you tend to live?

And pattern number three, do you tend to focus more on the past, present, or future? We all do all three. Where do you tend to live? It's a recipe. Watch this. If I am focused on what's missing from my life, what I cannot control, in the past, you just found depression and sadness. If I'm focused on what's missing from my life, what I cannot control in the present, you just found frustration, anger, if I'm focused on what's missing, cannot control in the future.

You just found anxiety, overwhelm, worry, but the opposite is also true. What I appreciate, what I can control. In the past, there's nostalgia and gratitude substitute in the present. You find joy and happiness substitute in the future and you find excitement. Now, some people here are focused on what's missing from their life, what they can control in the future, and those are all the achievers in the room.

And you're what I like to call royally screwed. No, I'm just kidding. You're not screwed. But the point is where you are pushing, putting your focus will bring a certain. Sense of emotion and you change any of those three things, your life starts to shift. But when you can recognize that the goal or dream, the feelings you think it'll bring you, if you live in those feelings now, that's what's gonna give you the creativity, the energy to experience fulfillment and actually create the achievement you're looking for without needing to push the goalpost down the field, another 50 yards just to feel anything.

[00:24:49] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, I think there's a handful of things that I'd like to underline or highlight. One, I think it's fun. I think this recipe is fun. You gave many variables. I'd love it on like A chart chat. A Pinterest 

[00:25:00] Brad Bizjack: infographic. Yeah. 

[00:25:02] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Could we get it in an infographic? It's fun. Ooh, I'm feeling this way.

Let me shift one thing over here. It's just fun. It was a fun one. You were describing, you were saying that. Recognizing that there's no negative emotion. And of course there's gonna be people that would disagree with you. But this reminds me of Louise Hay who said, and I use this, I think, I had my own version and then I saw Louise Hay's version.

I thought yours is better. I think it's all experiences are good experiences is what she says. I used to say like, all experiences are valuable. All of them teach us something, right? But all of them are good experiences. And this comes around to context. 'cause we could say. Oh, Brad, when children are being killed, that's not a good experience.

But we're talking about, I think, I might separate from that experience. That is a terrible thing happening in the world. And my experience of it is oh, I feel sadness around that. 

Can be a good experience. 'cause I'm able to feel the feeling that I wanna feel and that, 

[00:25:55] Brad Bizjack: and the meaning you give it is I'm gonna go and hug my kids.

[00:25:58] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. I'm 

[00:25:58] Brad Bizjack: gonna tell them how much I love them. So you can turn a meeting into something beautiful. Doesn't mean that hardship doesn't happen. 

[00:26:03] Christa Biegler, RD: It means 

[00:26:03] Brad Bizjack: that your perception of it can shift your future. 

[00:26:06] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. That's good. I think we should do another one of those of something terrible happening.

Oh, something's going on with, there's a terrible health issue in my family and I might be losing a loved one. How is this a good experience, Brad? Yeah, 

[00:26:20] Brad Bizjack: so what we need to make sure and not do is not, we need to make sure and not label something as good or bad. Let's label it as comfortable or uncomfortable, right?

So there's a health issue with something in the family. Really tough, painful experience, right? If you consistently focus on. How it should be different than it is. You are resisting what is, and like I said, to the degree in which you can accept is the degree in which you have the ability to do something about it, right?

If you're making it wrong. If you're saying it should be different, then your perception of that thing is leading to really uncomfortable emotions. You always have the ability to choose a meaning. So the meaning could be, I am going to make sure I spend as much time as I can with this person, tell them how much I love them, and not leave anything inside.

I'm gonna share it all right. Because if we think about. Let's say happiness in general, happiness is a result of met expectations, right? And if a lot of people think I need my circumstances to change, for expectations to be met, or you just change your expectations, right? And if you change your expectations and you trade your expectations for appreciations, your whole life changes in an instant.

So something like a sick family member. Gratitude for the beautiful memories you have with them up until now. Opportunity to tell them how much you love them, the opportunity to create new memories, the opportunity to show your children how to process grief. S from a healthy way, in a healthy way. There's opportunity everywhere as long as you find the meaning.

And I subscribe to the belief that, and you can disagree if you'd like, but I subscribe to the belief that life is always happening for you and not to you. And you will always get what you wanted or you'll get what you needed. And life is rigged in our favor to give us a lesson. But if we deny the lesson, then the problems seem to get louder.

And harder 'cause we're not paying attention. So I wanna make sure and clear up that it is not saying tough situations aren't tough, it is not saying they're not painful, it's not saying you're not going to experience the sharpness and those sensations, but you can make it mean something powerful, something empowering.

The meaning to what you experience is always 100% yours. And one example of this or a high level. Overview of how you can make, how I can prove to people that this is true. Think of something in your life right now that you would never want to go through again, but you're so glad you did.

[00:28:59] Christa Biegler, RD: Everything. So many. There you 

[00:29:01] Brad Bizjack: go. Everything. Yeah. You're so glad you did. And in the moment it was painful. But if I look at like my childhood, there was a lot of trauma growing up, right? If I look at my childhood, I had so much blame, so much expectation that it should have been different. But I realized that if that person played the role that I wanted them to play, I wouldn't have the empathy.

I wouldn't be the spouse I am. I wouldn't be the parent I am. I wouldn't have the hunger and drive that I have. It was all happening for me. It just took me 20 years to learn it, and once I learned the lesson, I experienced freedom. So it's not taking away pain. I'm saying that the suffering is a choice and it goes away the minute you give it an empowering meaning.

[00:29:39] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, those uncomfortable experiences are the thing that we walk through to get to the other side, to learn that lesson so often, because I have been there where I've resisted the lesson and it just shows up in a louder way. So everything you're saying is not I feel like I've experienced those things or heard those things, or I've lived in embodied those things.

I do agree with you. Pretty much most of what you're saying, right? And that comes from being somewhat in this world. I wanna underline something else you just said is that many people think their circumstances, the facts of the situation where I live, how much money I make, the people in my family, et cetera, should be different.

I have bad notes here, but it said you should train your expectations for appreciation for that. And I think you, you already, I just think it's useful. There was a lot of content here, so I think it's useful to actually unpack it and make it really tangible so that there actually, the concept I wanna say is that this kinds of thinking takes, it's like a skill to build.

I don't think it's natural. I think it's our weak side. Yeah. I was giving this example last week is that we are wired to be a little bit negative because of our negativity bias, looking for danger and fear. And so it's like more natural for the marble to roll down the one path of least resistance is that.

And I think that we have to think on purpose and we have to choose our thoughts carefully and that can still be a path to lead to X, Y, Z way, but it's like it's lazy to think the easiest way is, and I usually don't say that to people unless we're in relationship, but I'm like, it's lazy thinking to be negative thinking because that's the easiest options, the most automatic.

But what you're describing takes a little bit more intention. We kinda have to stop ourselves and catch ourselves and flex and practice new neural pathways and a new route of a marble. And someone said, I'm gonna be imagining marbles. Going 

[00:31:26] Brad Bizjack: down 

[00:31:27] Christa Biegler, RD: a different pathway. So I just wanna underline that a little bit more, and I think, you probably gave us enough examples, right?

But it's like you have to train your expectations for appreciation. Oh, if I hadn't had, and we can all look at that. I, if I think about my health, my first health crisis 10 issuers ago. I had like the first flare, the first similar flare of that, pretty recently, and I was so proud of my nervous system.

I was like, oh, everything's gonna be okay. It will be, 10 freaking years later, Brad three health crises later, it was like, oh, I trust that things will be okay. And that there's a message here for me, and because I work in the health space, it's like thing your body's not fighting you.

It's like health. It's trying to, it's always trying to support and to protect and to heal automatically. Our body is doing things for us automatically. Sometimes it just runs out of options. And then it needs to talk a little bit louder, but some similar concepts to what you're describing. So I dunno if you wanna add more to that.

There was another thing that you said earlier that I wanted to challenge and press in on because you said that a good question you ask yourself is what emotional state would serve me best in the next room I'm in? Which I love the question. I actually think. Most things come from a good quality question, but someone might say, including me, but Brad, how do I change my emotions when I'm dealing with X, Y, z?

Blah, blah, blah. And I would say it's probably a little bit of a bridge. It's like a, it's a piece at a time. And this reminds me of when I was in coaching earlier this year and we were like unpacking stuff and there was a lot of crying and I was like, oh my gosh, now I gotta need to go be a normal human.

And I was like, how do I change these emotions? So I zoomed back to that place, right? It came through that. But I bring that up because someone might say Brad. I need to be in that emotion. Like I need to feel these emotions, not just run to the next thing. So what would you say about this? 

[00:33:13] Brad Bizjack: There are resourceful states and there are suffering states, right?

And you can choose to put yourself in a suffering state, right? Let's say that the circumstance on the other side of the door is going to be there either way. You can choose walking into that room to lower your state to meet what's in the room. And let it own you. I see a lot of people do this. A lot of people are consistently in this state of what's the point?

Like here's a great example. A lot of people have that I work with have big dreams and big goals, but their spouse doesn't support them. And they'll be on a call with me or go to some conference or whatever it is, and they walk into the room and their spouse is oh, here we go again. And so what they do is they drop their states.

Because they don't wanna be judged. They don't want to get into an argument, whatever it is. But a lot of people mistake that to mean that you should put yourself in a state to where you should change the people in the other room. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying put yourself in a state to be the most resourceful, to be able to successfully navigate.

The next room, right? So if there's a hardship in my life, let's say that something tough is going on with my family, a health scare, or something tough is going on with my dad or my brother, whatever it is, and I'm gonna give them a call, it doesn't mean that I'm going to put myself in the state of positivity and excitement, right?

That's not what it means. It might mean that the state that best serves me in the next room is one of compassion and understanding and love or empathy. It's what? Emotional state. Leads to the outcome that's most desired. And this kinda goes back to what I said in the beginning during my story, that a lot of people think mindset is positivity.

But positivity by itself is just as toxic as pessimism. If you go to a funeral, laughter and excitement and positivity would probably be not a resourceful state to have at that. In that scenario, right? So all I'm trying to say is you don't have to force the emotions that would make you the most comfortable.

You wanna put yourself in a state that is most resourceful for the outcome you're looking for in the next room. Does that make sense? 

[00:35:24] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, no, I like it. That's good. Okay. I think when you do this work, you start to see patterns emerge over and over. And by the way, that was a great example, right? The loved one not supporting me.

And that's an interesting thing to work through. The first one is you don't control other people's emotions, which is something you had said. So what is a common thread? What's a thing people using for self-sabotage over and over, no matter. How much work that they've done on themselves.

[00:35:51] Brad Bizjack: I have an interesting thought on this and some people here might wanna slap me in the forehead. I say, you're too far away. I don't believe that self-sabotage is a thing. And I literally just released a podcast episode on this two weeks ago. Think about this. Going back to what you just said a minute ago, Krista, about your brain. Like you have a negativity bias, right? You default everyone does. And I think that's so spot on because your brain's a survivalist, right? It's job is not to make you happy. It's job is to make sure that you stay alive, right? So at any moment in time, it's looking for threats. And so what that means is, let's say someone is about to take an action on a new business venture, a new health goal, or whatever it is, and they stop that action.

Right when it's about to get good, that is not self-sabotage because why would a survival mechanism intentionally cause you harm? It doesn't make sense. So what's actually happening is all you're doing is seeking safety. That's my perception that when someone labels it as self-sabotage, you are seeking away from threat.

And so we can use the word self-sabotage. It helps people understand the concept. But all that's really happening is we're trying to default to what we already know and what's familiar. And how this might show up to the question you were asking. How this might show up in somebody's life is that person that is consistently starting and stopping.

They never gain enough momentum to actually see something through, or the person that is living in perfection constantly with unbearable standards that you constantly need to escape from an or interrupt, and you're always trying not to fail, instead of playing to win or nothing you ever do. Feels like it's enough, so you're not experiencing the juice of life, the excitement of life, or seeing yourself in a situation where you're about to break through and then waiting for the other shoe to drop.

The only thing that's happening in those circumstances is you're defaulting to what you already know how to deal with because there is a perception that growth or success is unfamiliar and therefore unsafe. Because the reptilian brain 2 million years ago is linking threat to a tiger attack. And so if we have the same threat being perceived in our mind, but it's growing a business or dealing with a sick kid or whatever it is, then we're linking up that this thing is somehow gonna lead to our death.

And therefore we don't want it. And this is why people will say, I'm afraid of success. No one's afraid of success. They're afraid of experiencing pain. And so they will default to avoiding pain at all costs. But those are some of the ways that shows up. And we can unpack perfection and all that stuff.

Overvaluation of certainty, tying worth to goals. You name it, we can go through it. But I don't believe it's self-sabotage. I believe it's just a craving of safety. 

[00:38:47] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. No, I like that. And I think that's a useful, more empathetic, more kind way to look at it for yourself. Of course you're seeking safety.

Yeah. Because that's naturally what you would do. So it's a good thing. That's okay. Yeah. And. Can we create some new evidence, that the next level can be safe, right? Is that an option for us as well? Speaking of perfectionism, or what was the other thing? These, oh tying our. Worth 

[00:39:17] Brad Bizjack: your worth to an outcome.

[00:39:17] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, those are pretty prevailing themes. So let's talk about tying your worth to an outcome and what are some strategies around this and more so how do we start to identify it first? I think that's always the first thing, right? And I think you gave some good examples earlier that I definitely resonated with that when things are good, we can be high vibing.

And when things are. Not going as expectation. We can be low by being good times, and very many of us who run in the business world. But I think a lot of people are high performers or achievers or results oriented. So worth tied to productivity. There's a lot. I think this is like never, I don't know if we'll ever run out of content for this topic.

[00:39:59] Brad Bizjack: Oh my goodness. I could talk about this for 20 days in a row.

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[00:41:08] Brad Bizjack: There's so many ways that this shows up, right when I think we need to start with the fundamental truth. And this is so cute to have on an Instagram quote card, but believing it is a whole new ball game, right? So me just saying it isn't gonna do anything, it's just we need to have the pre-frame to the entire conversation.

That no amount of success, money, achievement, health, whatever it is ever going to make you more worthy than you already are. Ever, there's no measurement of worth. You're literally trying to measure something that's not measurable, right? And that's why it feels so unfulfilling and why it keeps getting pushed down the road because you're trying to do something that's literally impossible, right?

And so a lot of people in business hear this all the time, charge what you're worth. You can't charge infinity. It's not possible. Charge your value, but you can't charge what you're worth, right? So I see this show up in two ways. Number one is attachment, and number two is perfection. And we will go into both of those.

Attachment is this energy of I am my results, right? My worth is tied to what I achieve. I only matter if something happens. And. When people live that way, there's kind of two sides that I see playing out. Side number one is people end up playing small and decreasing their goals down to something that they know they can achieve.

That's more realistic. But in the world of dreaming big and playing for success, realism is the fastest traveled road to mediocrity. I'm not saying don't look at the facts of your situation. I'm saying that if you are setting goals based on what you already know you can achieve and the experience you've had up until now.

You're not growing, you're not changing, so there's no point, right? So realism when it comes to your dreams, is a waste of time. And what most people do if they're attached is they'll shrink their dreams lower to make sure that they're more attainable. When they're lower and more attainable, you don't need to become more, you're bored by the idea of them.

You're not inspired, you don't wanna take the action to create them. And so you'll find yourself decreasing them even more because that one wasn't attainable. And next thing you stop dreaming altogether and you start settling thinking that's your new ceiling when it's not. That's the first way it shows up.

And the second way it shows up to all the achievers in the room is that you'll push yourself through that, through this to call it a skill of perfectionism, and you'll create this success, this achievement, but you won't be experiencing fulfillment because now you're so attached that. Now all of a sudden you're waiting for it to fall apart.

You're thinking things aren't gonna last, it's gonna disappear. How do I protect what I've built? So you don't try new things and you end up getting bored and you end up getting exhausted. So I was at a conference, I dunno if you were there in December, a conference where I heard the best metaphor for energy on how to deal with this.

And it's based on this idea that if we wanna truly succeed and be fulfilled, we need to be detached. Detachment is not that you should own nothing. It is that nothing should own you. That's what detachment is. It's, I decide this is what I want. I'm gonna go after it with everything I possibly can, and I'm solid either way, whether I have missed almost every single goal I have set in the last six years, almost every single one.

Because it's not about the goal, it's about becoming the person that can hit the goal. Which is why my goals continue to increase, but so does my happiness and joy. So the metaphor that I learned is like holding a baby bird in your hands, right? If you're holding out your hands, you need to support the dream.

The bird is your dream. It needs to gain strength to fly away. If you do nothing, then the bird falls to its death. Don't kill a bird. If you are holding and supporting that bird, you're putting enough support and structure on it. You're doing the things you said you would do to make it happen, but you're not squeezing and controlling and death gripping and crushing the bird to death.

And so that energy of holding a baby bird in your hands, that's the energy to go after a big dream with. That's how you be detached. It's, I'm gonna do everything I said I was gonna do and I'm not gonna. Base my own happiness and joy on this, but the way that people get to this state of needing it to go a certain way or fearful that it's gonna fall apart, or the thing that makes them shrink their dreams down is the skill of perfection.

Perfection just means that you are far overvaluing certainty and you're basing your worth on an outcome. And in my opinion, and I say this with so much love in my heart, for you, perfection is the lowest standard that you can ever set because it guarantees pain no matter what. Three ways. It guarantees pain, number one.

Some people will never start 'cause they don't know how it's gonna go. And so they will overconsume education and they'll study study, study all day long. Getting ready to get ready. But inspiration without action is delusion. It's not happening, right? And so people will be so knowledgeable yet know nothing.

Because they haven't acted. I don't care how many books about swimming you read, if you don't get in the pool, you don't know how to swim, right? The second way it guarantees pain is that everything you do becomes about not failing instead of winning. And a good metaphor to explain this is, can you imagine if your kid was starting off playing T-ball and you told 'em, just don't miss.

Instead of keep your eye on the ball try to hit it right. Another way to think about it is how long would you give your average baby to learn how to walk before you tell 'em they're meant to crawl their whole life? When a baby stands up and it wobbles and falls on its butt, you don't go over and kick the baby, right?

You praise the baby and the baby gets up and it tries again, falls on its butt again, and you celebrate its failures and the mistakes. But if you are basing your worth on an outcome and living in a state of perfection. Failure is not an option. And if failure is not an option, you'll only do what you can control and you only do what you can control.

You never take risks and you never take calculated risks. You're never gonna get to the next level. So trying not to fail instead of playing to win is another way it shows up. And the third way, and this is probably the most relatable to everybody here, is that no matter what you do, it will never feel like enough.

You'll bounce from goal to do list, to-do lists, peak to peak. And it will feel like you're chasing a ghost and nothing will ever feel like enough. And the way that we get out of this is to see the consequences of it. One of the greatest ways to break a belief is to intentionally give yourself pain.

If the belief is I have to be perfect, right? We can go into the origin of where it came from and heal all that past stuff if we want to. But really what matters is what you're doing with it now. If you've ever seen the movie A Christmas Carol with Ebenezer Scrooge, right? And he is a total butthead to everybody.

One night, three neuro associative conditioning specialists showed up at his house, right? She chuckled by the way that there's a joke. I got her on one, the ghosted Christmas past, present, and future. And what did they do? They linked up unbearable pain the way that he was living up until now.

How he's living now and what his life will look like if he keeps living this way. And when you're boxed in from the left, from the right and behind you, guess what? You move, right? So if you ask yourself, how has perfection hurt me? Who has it hurt in my life? What have I never achieved and what will I never achieve?

Where will I be in two years, five years from now? If I don't change this, how will I hurt myself physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, who's no longer going to be in my life? If you see the consequences of it, you'll realize that it's not worth setting a standard for. And if you pair that with a compelling vision of the future that you actually want to build towards, so that's the pain side you build.

You pair it with, what do I actually wanna go after? What's the dream and the goal that excites me, and it's not about the achievement, it's about who I become in the process and the vision, the contribution. You put those two things together and it becomes very easy. To let go of it. Now, there's strategies and questions and close eye processes and things like that we can go through to let it go much easier than just this conceptual understanding.

But the point I'm trying to make is that if you successfully take the cd, that's, you guys remember CD players? You take the CD that's been playing and you scratch that cd, it's never gonna play the same again. And you have the opportunity to plug a new CD in. That's what we wanna do with the beliefs that are no longer serving you.

But most people have no idea what their limiting beliefs are. They have no idea where they came from and they have no idea how to break them. And they're trying to do it based on a goal that they don't even want. 'cause they have another belief that says, I can't go big, right? And so if you want to actually go big, you have to identify what made it feel safer to play small or better said, if you find yourself playing small, you need to ask yourself, when did it start feeling unsafe to play big?

And you do those things, your whole life changes very quickly. 

[00:49:50] Christa Biegler, RD: Lots of good questions here. And in 10 years you're gonna need a new. Metaphor for the CD Brad, no longer. How am I gonna do that? 

[00:50:01] Brad Bizjack: We'll 

[00:50:01] Christa Biegler, RD: figure it out. You need a, you gonna need a fresh one? You're gonna need a fresh one. Woof. Okay. Lots of great things here.

I think, when I think about worth being tied to productivity, you talk about. Attachment and perfection and a couple things that I am a result, I'm only what I achieve and I feel like the natural consequence of worth tied to productivity is extreme burnout. And you're gonna pretend that it's not that for a long time you're gonna be like a little duck under water.

You look okay from the top, but underneath you're just paddling away as a person. Who really can identify with the work tied to productivity. I think that your perceptions around perfection are so fascinating and convicting, I think they're gonna make a great breathwork session. Thank you very much for a lot of these prompts here.

And my clients listening will be like, okay, I can see this coming. But I wanna just offer before we start to wrap up is there's some core things I see from coaching people. It is that. There's a couple, couple big things that have stuck out to me and I think it's amazing because I think we're all, we have so much in common and I think that's a amazing and beautiful.

And so the first one is that we all think our situation is super unique. Yeah. That we actually don't think we're actually alike. And it's like your circumstance is yours, the facts of the situation. Or your paragraph problems, but the core feelings underneath and these attachments and perfection and whatever it's presenting at we can all relate to, like we have a very common thread there.

The other one that I saw presenting as I started doing somatics was this concept of worthiness. Now, no one would ever come in and say, I have a worthiness issue. I don't feel that those performers and high achievers would come in. That's something we unpack in time, but as you bring in somatics, I would notice.

This, when you go into affirmations and breath work at the end, like this is the thing that would produce people, like, why am I crying during this part? Because there isn't actually an inherent thing around worthiness overall, and so that concept has a. It was really close, near and dear to my heart.

I always say I'm not better than someone. I'm actually just your peer as well. I go through all of these things as well, and so it's always fun. I think we can go back and listen to this episode with Brad a few more times and get different things and different questions because I think these powerful questions, like if we took the time to stop and ask ourselves some of these powerful questions, there's some beautiful things, beautiful fruit that could come from this episode, but if you want more of.

Brad, where can people get more of? Brad coming right up. 

[00:52:22] Brad Bizjack: www.icepicklobotomy.com. No, I'm just kidding. Stop it. 

[00:52:28] Christa Biegler, RD: I 

[00:52:28] Brad Bizjack: got her to laugh again. Yeah. I'm like, how many times can we use this joke? She almost took a sip of tea or coffee or something. I was, I timed it so that she didn't spit it out. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyway, anyways I ran into an issue a couple years. I've been doing podcasts like this before. I've probably done a thousand of them. And over the years. I would do these episodes and the feedback was amazing, right? Everyone was like, this is so inspiring. Thank you so much.

This is amazing for you. My life changed. Yeah. Bye. And then I would check in with the hosts on how people are doing and it would be, guest trainings and things like that, and no one changed. Right? Because inspiration without action or implementation is delusion. And so like you've mentioned, I've at this stage worked with 75,000 people.

I've recognized some patterns. And I realized I needed to find a way to make this experiential for people. To where it was actually lived, where it wasn't just me sharing knowledge, it was them living and knowing, and that's what would create lasting change. And so I took all of this, these patterns that I've recognized over the last 13 years of studying this stuff, of what is the thing that keeps people stuck in overwhelm year after year, even if they're achieving, never really getting to the next level, kicking that ball down the field or the go post down the field, like you mentioned, versus the people that.

Are achieving a lot and they're just so fulfilled. And they're so peaceful and happy, like what sets them apart? And so I took all the patterns that I've recognized and put them into a free five day experience called the Success Accelerator Mindset Challenge, and it starts on October 20th. It's great timing, and we're really gonna take the things that we talked about in this episode and so much more that we didn't even get to cover and make them real for you, where not only are we gonna identify what are the huge dreams and huge goals that your heart really wants, not what you're conditioned to want.

How is your mind currently wired? Meaning what are the consistent thought patterns, limiting beliefs, values and conflict, limiting identities, all of those things getting in the way of the big dream. How is your mind wired now and then the rest of the week we go to work on actually bridging that gap between where you are and where you want to be.

We have seen people. Heal health issues from this. We've seen people completely transform their marriages. We've seen people create six figure businesses within six months. You name it, we have seen it. People forgiving their parents after years and years of pain. It's incredible what becomes possible from here.

And so my promise to you is if you join the Five Day Challenge, you will have an experience that will change your life. And join us. It's totally free. It's my favorite program that we do. And I'm just so excited. It starts on October 20th. Krista has a link for you to enroll but hope to see you in the Success Accelerator.

[00:55:11] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, we'll drop that link in the show notes for everyone. How fun. It's not a mouthful at all. Success Acceler Accelerator. Five, nine times if you say it five times fast, it's like challenge. 

[00:55:20] Brad Bizjack: Yeah. Success Accelerator. Success. Acceler, 

[00:55:24] Christa Biegler, RD: Can we get an acronym for this one? 

[00:55:26] Brad Bizjack: Essay, 

[00:55:27] Christa Biegler, RD: Sam, for the, I'll see you with the, join the see you with the semi on October 20th with Brad.

Brad, thank you so much for coming on today. I'm so glad. That I got to meet you so I could be blessed by the endless dad jokes. I, we'll just see how many more times we can use the words ice pick. Lobotomy. 

[00:55:51] Brad Bizjack: I'm gonna get canceled one day for saying this seriously. 

[00:55:55] Christa Biegler, RD: If it hasn't happened yet, you're off to a really good start.

I feel like if you've weathered the storm this long, overall, so Brad, if you could, maybe let's give people one last thing. If someone's. Listening to this and they feel really convicted. What message do you wanna share with them 

[00:56:12] Brad Bizjack: that, I would say that you are meant for so much more than what you're getting outta life right now.

So much more success, so much more joy, fulfillment, laughter, fun, spontaneity, and that life right now truly is trying to help you get there. If you elevate above the issues that you're facing and you allow this metaphorically, call it an airplane to take off above the storm, you'll recognize that what you want so badly, the sun to be shining on you while it's storming in life is actually already right there.

It's right above you. Once you decide to elevate above the clouds and. That's your prerogative. You can do it or not do it, but that's my calling to all of you here to recognize that life is happening for you. It's giving you a lesson. And when you elevate above the problem, elevate above the storm in your life, you will see the sunshine.

And when you see the sunshine, you can't unsee it. It goes with you everywhere you go because life is truly happening for you and not to you. 

[00:57:19] Christa Biegler, RD: Perfect. Brad, thanks so much for coming on today. 

[00:57:21] Brad Bizjack: Of course. Happy to be here. Thanks for having me.