The Secret Language of Your Body with Inna Segal

This week, Inna Segal joins me to talk about healing in a way that goes beyond quick fixes. Instead of looking for someone else to “fix” you, we break down what it actually means to participate in your own healing and why that shift is often the turning point.

We walk through the stages of healing, why people get stuck, and how the nervous system, past experiences, and overwhelm can slow progress. We also talk about how to start reconnecting with your body through simple tools like breath and awareness, and how symptoms can act as signals instead of something to suppress.

If you want to go deeper, Inna offers a couple of starting points to help you begin this work:
👉 The Secret Language of Your Body Masterclass

👉 Intuitive Masterclass

KEY TAKEAWAYS:
• Healing requires your participation
• There are stages to healing you can’t skip
• The nervous system has to be ready for change
• Symptoms can be signals, not just problems
• Overwhelm keeps you stuck early on
• Connection starts with breath, touch, and awareness 

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ABOUT GUEST:
Inna Segal is a pioneer in the field of energy medicine and human consciousness, and the bestselling author of The Secret Language of Your Body, translated into 27 languages and sold over a million copies worldwide.
Her journey began after years of illness and the tragic stillbirth of her child, which led her to discover a profound ability to heal herself. From that turning point, she dedicated her life to helping others transform pain into freedom.
For over 25 years, Inna has worked with people worldwide—from doctors and psychologists to trauma survivors and creatives—teaching how to uncover the true roots of suffering and restore health through the wisdom of the body and soul.

WHERE TO FIND GUEST:
Website: https://www.innasegal.com/ 
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InnaSegalAuthor 

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Website: https://www.christabiegler.com/
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TRANSCRIPT:

[00:00:00] Inna Segal: whatever you've tried in the way that you've tried hasn't worked and. You are in the midst of suffering. And the question becomes, are you willing to become even more uncomfortable in a different way and start to explore deeper?

[00:00:25] Christa Biegler, RD: I'm your host, Christa Biegler, and I'm going to guess we have at least one thing in common, that we're both in pursuit of a less rest life. On this show, I'll be interviewing experts and sharing clinical pearls from my years of practice to support high performing, health-savvy women in pursuit of abundance and a less stressed life.

One of my beliefs is that we always have options for getting the results we want, so let's see what's out there together.

All right. Today on the Less Stressed Life, I am joined by Inna Segal, who is a pioneer in the field of energy medicine and human consciousness. And the bestselling author of The Secret Language of Your Body translated into 27 languages and sold over a million copies worldwide. Her journey began after years of illness and a tragic stillbirth of her child, which led her to discover a profound ability to heal herself.

From that turning point, she dedicated her life to helping others transform pain into freedom. For over 25 years, she has worked with people worldwide, from doctors and psychologists to trauma survivors and creatives, teaching them to uncover the trues roots of suffering and restore health through wisdom of the body and soul.

Welcome to the show, Inna. 

[00:01:58] Inna Segal: Thank you for having me, Christa. It's lovely to be here. 

[00:02:01] Christa Biegler, RD: It doesn't feel possible that you could be working with people for over 25 years because you look younger than me and I am not quite 40, so it feels impossible, but we'll just put that out there. When I read that, I'm like, oh, very interesting.

So you're bio kind of shares so much in so few words to be honest. And so it tells us a little bit about the history, but I always like to open up and hear more about your origin story and how you were led to this work because there's the part before you realize that there's an emotional and physical relationship to your symptoms.

So tell me what was happening for you and how this all started. 

[00:02:46] Inna Segal: I was struggling for most of my life with. Everything from digestive issues to skin condition called psoriasis to back pain and anxiety and back pain became the most painful out of them all. And I had been brought up with just knowing that there is medicine and medical profession.

And so for many years I was just going to doctors, I was putting on creams, I was taking, medications. I think my mom did take me to a physiotherapist at one point. So I was just constantly in that space of. How can someone, who understands medicine, fix me? And then I had an experience where I met a man who became my husband, I'm gonna say.

And he was very open to alternative medicine. So he started introducing me to many different types of alternatives, from naturopathy to chiropractic, to kinesiology, to rolfing, to all sorts of variety of different massage techniques and so on, and healing. And I think I just, I went to see countless people.

At one point I was seeing five people a week or having five sessions, I should say. No, not necessarily five people. And. I got to a place where I would get better, but then I would go backwards and eventually I got to a place where I was just an agony and my back was twisted and inflamed. And I went to see this chiropractor, her eye was seeing three times a week for over a year.

So he knew a little bit about what was going on, I'm gonna say. And he'd heard about how bad it was. And he actually came out of his office and he said to me your body stuck. I think what he really meant is, your whole, your mind, your emotions, how you're viewing life is stuck. And I said to him, okay, what are you gonna do to help me?

And essentially he said nothing, because there's nothing else I can do at this point. Your body wants to be stuck. Go home. To really feel like he understood that he had done everything in his power to help me from adjustments perspective. And now I needed to go home and do something myself where I could hold what he was helping me with.

And on the way home, I made a decision after my anger subsided and I could think a little bit more, I made a decision to heal myself. And I really felt like every part of me was aligned with this. And so I got home and I started with placing my hands on the back, breathing into the pain. I realized how I always held my breath and counting backwards from 30.

And as I was doing that, it occurred to me that maybe I should ask for divine help because. I didn't know where I really stood with it because there was a part of me that felt that God had abandoned me and rejected me from the fact that I had this child that died. And at the same time I thought if I'm really healing myself, is healing potentially beyond just the physical and mental emotional, maybe there is something spiritual there as well.

So when I asked, I actually had zero expectations, but I felt this warmth moving through my body and then this very strange thought came into my mind and the thought was, I wonder what my back looks like. Within moments really of this, I felt like somebody literally pressed the switch and I could see my back as if it was an x-ray.

And whilst I got an initial fright, I thought, wow, I asked for this. Let's go further. Why do I have this? And it was almost like a vision meets memory meets wisdom that started flashing before me. And there was. A memory. It started with a memory showing up and it wasn't just one memory, it was a many kind of events that occurred.

I was born in Eastern Europe and I came to Australia and didn't know one word of English. And so I was bullied really badly for being from that part of the world as well as not being able to speak English. And so I could essentially see all the different times where I was hurt and how I became smaller and went into myself.

And then as I acknowledged and I felt through what I was seeing and cried at different times, I saw the images change and it became. Like this new theme almost. And it was connecting to another part of my body. And so I could see my parents, and again, when we moved and after a few years, they were having a lot of conflicts with each other and it just felt very stressful for me to be around them, to be at home.

I also ended up going to a new school, and in that particular school I could speak English by that stage, but again, this school was highly subsidized in terms of what my parents were paying. And it allowed a small number of people from Eastern Europe to come, and pay a very different price to the rest of the students who came from insane, incredible wealth, the kind of wealth I'd never even dreamt of, let alone scene and.

They were very mad that, me and my friends, 'cause I could only be friends with people who were like me, essentially. That we were invading their school, so to speak. And so I noticed even in my, as I was exploring this, I remembered that every friend, pretty much, that I had complained about some kind of an issue with their spine, where there was scoliosis.

I think two of my friends had scoliosis. Others were walking around with their shoulders, in that protective mode. I had lower back pain, so it was almost like my body was showing me all the things that were, it was holding onto. And so in the acknowledgement, I would then be shown this other aspect.

I was also shown that my grandparents, especially to do with the digestive system, had. Immense trauma through the war and losses and my own loss of a child kind of absorbed that. And so it was like a repetition almost of family trauma. 'Cause my grandmother lost all her brothers and sisters.

She was one of eight and her mother. So as I was aware of all of this coming up, this took hours and I became exhausted and fell asleep. When I wake up, I noticed that a lot of the pain was gone. It wasn't completely gone in terms of my back, but the improvement was enormous and I made a commitment to myself to start to continue to explore.

Over the next several weeks, I wrote a lot. I journaled, I tried to put a lot of pieces of the puzzle together. I just wanna say here as well that as I was doing that I was aware that internally I was developing more and more flexibility. So rather than constantly being stuck in that hardened space in oneself where you're going, nothing works.

And can someone help me and fix me and heal me? I was feeling very excited each day about what I'm going to discover. And then after several weeks I noticed that I had no more back pain and I haven't had it since. And I also noticed that. My skin, the psoriasis completely disappeared and I've never had psoriasis since, and I could eat more food.

I'm gonna say digestive issues took years and years to really work with, because there was so ancestrally connected and connected with loss. But there was a huge improvement that, I wasn't blowing up from whatever I ate and I wasn't feeling sick, or I wasn't in a place where I can't go to the toilet for, days.

It was like things were really improving and I then discovered that I could see into other people's bodies as well. So that was where my whole journey of helping others began. 

[00:12:57] Christa Biegler, RD: So what I'm really curious about is how. You'd been seeing practitioners for years and then one day a chiropractor said, I can't help you.

And you went home and had like kind of this in and out of body experience for hours. And the way you tell the story is it's like almost serendipitous or it feels a little random or perhaps divinely inspired how it all started. It's interesting because I've had a similar conversation with many people on the show from a perspective of emotion stored in the body and creating pain in the body.

And Dr. John Sarno was, I think a psychologist who talked about this a lot using expressive writing. Then we've had a few other people who have done some versions of that. And so it's essentially like bringing to awareness the things that are being contained or stored in the body. So it's very interesting that you were inspired overall to have this.

Sort of very connected experience with your body. And it's interesting because for someone who feels very disconnected to their body, which this is the concept of being pain or trauma that has not been processed, the body doesn't know what to do with, so it uses it as pain or other symptoms potentially.

And so how do you think that you were able to have such a dramatic experience one day? I don't know if there was other promptings that helped it or there was other things that supported it. Because sometimes for people going through this, it feels like I don't even know what she means being connected to myself or feeling this energy or whatnot.

So had you already. Dipped your toe into some things related to energy and emotions, et cetera, or being more aware of the emotional space, or was this kind of the first day you just jumped completely in? 

[00:14:55] Inna Segal: It was definitely not the first day. And I think that's really important, that question for people to be aware of.

I had spent years going to practitioners. The thing was that I was going with the attitude that they were gonna do the work instead of me. 

And so I was very aware of lots of things that people had said. The biggest thing that I wasn't doing, and I think this is a huge reason why lots of people don't heal was that I wasn't taking any responsibility. I was totally relying, I was like, you are the practitioner, you are the expert. You know what to do. I don't know what to do. And my actual nervous system, my body, everything was prepared, I'm gonna say for the release. 

And I'm actually writing a book about this at the moment in terms of different stages of healing.

I was at a stage of healing where I was ready. I just needed to take one more step, and it was a step towards myself because I had been seeing, for instance, the chiropractor for over a year who worked on my nervous system. 

And prepared my nervous system. Created flexibility, essentially.

But it wasn't that I wasn't having any results from other people, it was always that I couldn't hold them. 

[00:16:17] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. 

[00:16:18] Inna Segal: And I couldn't hold them because I was not participating really, in the healing. And what he did was literally, I felt like it was a prompt. It was his way of saying. It's up to you to stop being stuck in it.

Everything else is fine, but as long as your attitude, your thought patterns, your beliefs, everything, as long as you hold onto everything in the past and keep it pulling you back, allow it to keep pulling you back. No matter what I do or any other practitioner does, it's actually not going to help.

And that's not straight away. I'm not gonna say that the minute he said that I interpreted like this. 

But as I was reflecting on what he was saying. It became clearer and clearer to me that he was essentially saying, when he said, go home, he was really saying, go home to yourself, go home to start to look within and then others can help you a lot more.

But we can't keep going round and round in circles when you are choosing to be stuck. 

[00:17:32] Christa Biegler, RD: And I understand what you mean. I had a different way about arriving at a similar conclusion as you, and essentially the commonality is disempowerment, right? Like the state that you were in was in a educated state, in a capable state, but a disempowered state where you're like, I don't know what's going on.

Where we all want. I think this is actually where we very naturally, where most of us start. Also, I wanted someone to fix me. Until I ran into that wasn't happening. Yeah. And I describe it as what I have seen working with clients is that the analogy I have is that sometimes it felt like we were carrying clients up the hill, like trying to get them to understand the things to integrate fully or completely.

And different things hit or are received by people at different times. We're not always ready to receive what we need to receive at different times, but my point is that lots of things I could talk about from this angle, but it can feel like carrying up the hill. And now I made such drastic shifts because it was like, it was landing.

I felt like people were often disempowered. It was the opposite of what I wanted. I wanted people to feel very empowered. I think from an empowered place, we create autonomy. And that's what you're talking about. I was like, oh, I am actually the healer. Like when I understand. How to listen to my body in a different way.

I can heal. And so I describe it now as instead of carrying someone up the hill, you walk next to them or you help support. But the end goal is empowerment and autonomy, which is ultimately I think where you ended up as well. It just looked a little bit different in general. 

[00:19:15] Inna Segal: A hundred percent.

I that without it, you can only go so far. Because at the end of the day, I always say to people, even if I can tune into you, even if I can tell you everything, I still don't know you the way you know you. I still don't know your life story the way you know it.

I still cannot transform things for you the way that you can, I can guide you, I can support you, I can walk by your side, as you said. I can't do it for you because it won't help. 

[00:19:46] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, for sure. It's a huge part of essentially relapse prevention. You've gotta have some of these tools or understand how things work and you brought up healing in stages and so I wanna talk about healing in stages and how, our common feeling is like we just really want someone to one, fix us.

Two, we wanna heal quickly and never have to deal with it again. It's a very common perspective, right? But there are layers, there are stages, and we can get impatient with that. But where do you think people get, what are some of the stages? I don't know if you have some names of them, and where do you think people get stuck or try to skip stages and it halts their progress?

[00:20:25] Inna Segal: People try and skip every stage they can, as you said. But essentially, I would say that stage one is a stage where we feel like we're in suffering and nobody understands how difficult and painful this suffering is. We are the only ones, and we feel we need someone to fix it.

And we usually think it's medical because medical system is based on that quick fix. I'll give you a tablet and you no longer have pain. And again I'm also gonna say that sometimes you need that. 

There's times in your life that is exactly what you need to do.

But. Usually what people realize is that the magic pill that they're looking for in this stage one of healing and the suffering that they go through there's no quick fix. And I also find that this is a stage of victimhood, so it's very hard to actually guide someone when they're in the depth of their stage because they cannot hear you.

The only thing that they're interested in, the only thing that shows up for them is their own struggle, is their own suffering. And so then eventually there is an opportunity to me to move to stage two. And in stage two. We start to go, okay maybe there's more than medicine. So now I wanna go to alternative medicine, but I want it to be like medicine.

[00:22:10] Christa Biegler, RD: Yes. 

[00:22:10] Inna Segal: I still want someone to give me the herbs, the adjustments, whatever it is. And maybe I'll tell them what I need them to do and I'll start controlling it and, and going, do this or do that for me. But it's still a very stuck in flexible stage where you're trying really hard to get to, it's like we have chaos and we're trying hard to get to some kind of a completion without really going through all the stages involved because we're scared, we don't know them, we don't understand them, and so on.

And I feel that, deep into stage two, and this can take months, sometimes years for people, sometimes days, sometimes hours, right? To go through depends on your internal flexibility. So the more stuck your nervous system is, the less likely you are to move through this stage in a, fast away.

You what you're gonna do is you're gonna go, okay, this is a bad practitioner, go to next one. Oh, this one doesn't work as well. Oh, let's go to the next one. But essentially, there's also not a real belief that you are the participant in your own healing. And again, someone, as much as they can explain to you, they cannot force you to understand this.

And so then you move to stage three, and this is where. You start to go maybe I'm somehow involved. Maybe I'm not responsible for what happened to me, but maybe I can do something about it. Maybe there is something that I can contribute. And this becomes you're starting to connect a little bit of the pieces you're starting to go, which is where I was at in that stage three, right?

When I had my experience. And during that stage you might ask questions around, is there wisdom in the body? Is it just me? Or, is the body trying to say something to me? And if it's saying something, what could it be? 

What is it that it could be sharing with me? And this stage is it in a sense, a stage of responsibility and actually building your sense of self building your I Am. Where you go. I. I can do some of this. And I need to learn and understand, I need to be teachable here. And if you are teachable and open-minded, then you will enter into stage four.

And stage four is where you start to realize that there are aspects of you that became stunted as you were growing. And that could be, for instance, in your childhood through different stages of development, your parents just didn't give you what you needed. Or you went to school and something happened.

Or let's say you're in a feminine body and you start realizing that you rejected femininity because of what you saw your mom and your grandmother and your auntie do, and how they behaved. And you took on more of the masculine qualities in yourself. And now you're having problems in your reproductive system.

So you start to. Explore and you go, Ooh, there's, I don't feel like I am a full me. There's parts of me that are numb. Maybe I feel disconnected from me. I wanna get to know me. And usually this is the time where you start to explore more of the shadow and the light aspects. And you might learn that, oh, there is.

I may need to go back to my childhood or healing may require me to go back and explore a timeline and face something. And you might even start to become aware more of what we'd call an archetype, which is an aspect of your personality. Something that Jung spoke about quite a lot, that contains memory, contains thought forms, contains emotions, contains many experiences that led to a particular perspective and a sense of yourself and how you show up in the world.

And. From there, as you do the work, you start to enter into a place of release. And again, I'm saying sometimes it can happen within hours. People who have prepared themselves and their nervous system and maybe have gone through this in a different way, like your question, Christa, at different times. Without a doubt. I had been through quite a few of these stages before I had a release. I'd gone to courses, I'd done stuff before. Not a lot I'm gonna say, but I'd read books, I'd listened to things, I definitely had an awareness of this. It didn't come from nowhere. And from there, it's like your body's preparing for a release.

Now, in that preparation stage, you usually feel a little bit uncomfortable. You're feeling like, ooh, something's bubbling inside that wants to come out right. And that can, depends on the state of your internal flexibility and how deep you went and how slowly you end or how fast you went. It can become a very pleasant release.

Almost like some people say it felt orgasmic or I was laughing, and I just knew, and I just understood things. Or it can become very difficult where you start to feel that, like your body is going into pain or it's almost like something is building and, it doesn't feel good.

So this is a stage where, again, if somebody's unprepared, they will run to medicine because they go, oh, my body's getting sick. As opposed no, actually, my body's asking you to slow down, to stop for a bit to breathe, to connect to it, to rest, so that the release can happen easily. So again, depends on what people do to how they start to experience this buildup that occurs.

And, the deeper you go, the more insights you're gonna get during this process. And you'll be like, oh my God I am understanding so many things and I'm putting all the pieces of the puzzle together. And then in stage seven, you do have the bigger release or relief or transformation, I'm gonna say where for some people, again, if they've skipped several stages and they just push for.

I wanna be, now, like you said, magic peel and they haven't done anything that I'm talking about besides, trying to go to someone who will fix them. That release can be very unpleasant. It can be to point where somebody could end up in a hospital because they're forcing things and they're trying to make it faster and they don't wanna go through the learning and the depth of why they have what they have.

And for someone else, that release can be, through crying, through seeing things, show up from the past and so on. 

[00:29:48] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. 

[00:29:48] Inna Segal: And once you do have the release, I believe that you enter stage eight, which is. That cleanse state, that calm state of what's possible now, and this is where you might go, I'm gonna go and explore spirituality in a deeper way and who I am and why I am here and what's my destiny and what am I about?

What's my life really and truly about? Or you might go, oh I think it's time to look at my ancestry and how this is affecting me, or whatever it is that shows up for you. But it comes from a place of strength and now I'm stronger. Now I understand. And then you go through all sorts of, different and again, I'm generalizing and, simplifying the stages of, the layers of the stages of what can really happen in each 

[00:30:45] Christa Biegler, RD: I always appreciate anytime we can try to. Simplify anything because I have seen versions of these stages as well. And I would agree that, there's this openness to, man, maybe I do have emotions stored in the body, and how could I go release that as quickly as possible?

Is there like a quick, easy button? Because we all would love an easy button. And my learning, I've been learning and understanding, my experience so far is that it's like several things and tools and it happens piece by piece sometimes. Like sometimes you have these mountaintop experiences and sometimes there's nothing there.

But as I've studied somatic release in general, it's like some of what you were saying makes sense of how I've learned that methodology. And generally there's several, thought leaders in somatic release, right? But one of them is Dr. Peter Levine. Who talks about, all of these movements essentially, I'm just explaining what I'm saying, but explains all these movements as a form of release and how humans typically don't do this in, I think, like one other animal all the time.

Or we like skip this step as part of the release. But as I've learned that often you have to be prepared to have that release, otherwise it does not go like you want it to or simply or easily. Not that it's guaranteed to be simple or easy, but it's like you have to prepare the body. And you've said that in different ways a couple of times and it was threaded through as you shared the stages.

But I am a lover of pattern recognition, like what is in common here, because I feel that the truth leaves clues, right? And so it like has commonalities to patterns depending on. Whoever you're getting your information from, if there is some common lines through it, you see the same truth from completely unrelated sources many times.

There is something to maybe find or glean from that in general. So I think it's helpful. I do think that in we're all layers in general, and so I think it can be helpful for someone to understand a layer of where they are or a stage of where they are because one, I think self-awareness is always the first step in helping us move toward any sort of change personally.

And two, it's less ambiguous. It helps give us something to anchor or hold onto. And I think that's humans that's helpful. When generally, it's like you're talking about. Somewhat intangible. I think it's very tangible, but a somewhat intangible thing. I think that's why we, the first layers are medicine and alternative medicine because it feels so real and tangible.

So it makes sense, right? It's like this layer of openness for each step essentially. To be able to even go through that. I wanted to ask you about, where people come in. I think, I feel like there is sometimes this rock bottom, right? That forces us to do something different and your, I don't know if we would consider it a rock bottom, but your visit that day to the chiropractor was this little push.

It was a catalyst that really shifted something into alignment, right? So that your intention was aligned. But I find that, and this is. An interesting scenario that is quite common, but sometimes people come in and they're very overwhelmed by everything, and when we're overwhelmed by everything, we have challenges being logical.

We're shut down. You said this earlier, generally, like when we're in a stress response in general, our logical brain does shut down and we don't really, we're not very open to anything typically. And so when someone's really overwhelmed by what's going on with them, what is the first step for them?

[00:34:31] Inna Segal: I think in some ways it's almost like the step is to acknowledge that nothing's working, right? It's almost like rather than resisting and pushing it somewhere else, it's going, whatever you've tried in the way that you've tried hasn't worked and. You are in the midst of suffering. And the question becomes, are you willing to become even more uncomfortable in a different way and start to explore deeper?

And I think that if the answer is no, then we almost have to accept that the person needs to stay in that stage at this point. And they're simply in a place of, they're wanting a magic genie. They're not ready to recognize that they can do anything about it, but when, as soon as they are in a state of going, I've heard stories, for instance.

Of people. And that's why I'm I'm so big on encouraging, especially my students and clients to share their progress because it's one thing hearing it from me, but it's another thing, hearing it from them and what they actually have experienced and been through. And that, like you said, very often it's hitting rock bottom.

And if I can give an example, there was a lady that came to me and she had so many conditions that the medical system basically said to her, you don't have long, we think you should just get your affairs in order. So I don't really operate in this way. So when she came and it was a live event.

She was in so much pain. She had so much fatigue inside her body that she literally could hardly walk and she had to walk upstairs and there was not many steps, but there were enough. And said by the time she got there with a cane, she was sweating. And she was thinking, how am I gonna come back to this workshop?

'cause it was over several days. And in my work personally, I think you mentioned this already, I tried to actually get people to move their bodies and I was saying we were doing a process on Ancestry, and I said to her. Because, she was saying, I can't, I'm in pain. And I said, just as long as you can just try and do the exercise and move and take steps forward.

And it was all about connecting to her mother and becoming aware of what she took on from her mother. And at one point she said, so her legs were bowed to a point where she had lost eight centimeters in height and was in the agony. Like I said, she, it was so hard for her to move. And she said that within, I don't know, maybe halfway through their exercise

she felt like this release of pain moved through out of her body. And she said within a short period of time, she gained five centimeters in height, like literally. And within again hours of that workshop, she was able to walk without her cane and without any pain. 

And then she realized she was a practitioner of a different modality.

She realized that she had to make, even though she had this release she was willing to do the deeper work and she had to make this work become part of how she lived her life. 

And within, let's say it was probably two year period, almost every condition, including. Like several autoimmune conditions and like major issues and chronic fatigue.

She was able to transform that to where, she had a life. 'cause she said before she came to the workshop, she hardly left her bed. That's how bad it was for her. And you could see, as she was doing the deeper work and having realizations, even though again she was a practitioner for different modality, she had never gone deeper into the way that, again, that I explain and teach things.

And it was just incredible to see her. And then her friend was there as well, who also was a practitioner of many, several modalities. But again, when she came to see me. She had fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue where again, she could hardly move. She had zero energy and working through traumas in all sorts of different ways and changing the nervous system and new perspectives and archetype of work and the different stages of healing, again, took her to where all her pain disappeared.

And she was able to regain, all her energy, which was absolutely amazing. So our bodies are amazing, but we have to be willing to explore. And the starting point is always, how do I connect? And we connect through touch, we connect through breath, we connect through movement, we connect through consciousness and asking questions.

[00:40:40] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, I agree. I think all of those things of like how you connect at first, but that's the thing is that I think we live pretty disconnected and our body is trying to scream at us. And I'm not sure if that's what your first ish, I think it's your first book is called The Secret Language of the Body, and I always think that symptoms are exactly what is showing up.

Like they're always language, they're just trying to help us. And I don't know if that is also the language for you or if there's more pieces to it. What do you believe is the secret language of the body?

[00:41:13] Inna Segal: I feel like the secret language of the body is about wisdom, so it's about being aware that every part of the body has a functionality, and we know that, and that function connects to wisdom, which leads us to look at how we're living our lives. So I look at what are the ways that you live that can strengthen your body or break it down?

So if we take the most obvious part of us, which is the heart, because that's always in the, top few percent of. Diseases that people have, what does it teach us? Where does it lead us? And we start to go we know without, I don't need to tell you what the heart's really about in terms of emotions, right?

It's like we feel emotions of rejection in the heart when we've been, we feel hurt, we feel abandonment. We feel fear, but we also feel love and we feel connection, and we feel purpose, and we feel courage inside of the heart. Whilst people can say their diet has, a huge impact. And I'm not gonna say that diet doesn't have any impact because it clearly does.

But I'm also gonna say that I've seen people who have had atrocious diets and don't have heart disease. And I've seen people who have the cleanest, most biodynamic organic, whatever you think you know, is the purest diet and have horrendous health issues. So that is absolutely clear that diet has an impact, but it's not the whole story and what.

The heart is, when we're in a relationship, we know every day, oh, I feel good with my partner. Oh, they said something. Oh, I felt this. Oh, they're, we know that. And the body holds all the storylines around everything to do with what each part of the body represents.

I recently actually did a podcast with this young man who's an actor, and he said that he had to have his gallbladder out and he had liver issues. And immediately I said to him, when you were growing up, especially when you were a teenager. How did you feel about your father? And he said I felt completely rejected.

Like my father did not accept me or what I did. Because he wanted to be an artist, he pushed me away. We don't have a good relationship because of this, that he wanted me to be completely different. Now, in all my 25 years of doing this, I have not met a person who had liver issues where it wasn't connected somehow to an important masculine person where they had a conflict with them.

So the body holds deep wisdom, but things all should also show up later, potentially, because a body's so resilient. And. At the same time, even though it shows up late and sometimes not even in the same part of the body that where it started, as you start to connect the pieces together and you're delving into things, things transform.

And essentially there's always an opportunity for growth and lessons here. And I always say your life reflects your body, and in particular, your relationships reflect your digestive system, reflect your heart, reflect your throat and thyroid and how you communicate. So many aspects. 

[00:45:24] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, no, I love talking about what parts of the body impact different symptoms in Eastern Asian medicine it's.

Pretty well regarded as truth that anger is stored in the liver, gallbladder. And I definitely see that trend and pattern with clients a lot of conditions that there is congestion of the liver in general. So I definitely see that pattern, but I haven't heard anyone say that. I recall that there's a relationship to an important male figure before, I know it's your experience, but I dunno if that comes from other ancient wisdom and I just didn't know it because as you talk about thyroid it's, I think also pretty commonly regarded as truth that sometimes you lose your voice in some way and have thyroid issues overall.

So you just alluded to a few of those. And digestion with relationship. I actually don't know if I've heard digestion with relationship, but I think it makes a lot of sense because our relationship with others. With other things are some of our biggest sources of stress in general which challenges the physiology of digestion.

So where does it come from? That relationship with a male figure is related to liver, gallbladder function. 

[00:46:42] Inna Segal: If we start breaking the body down, and this takes a little bit of time to understand, but it's like everything, every part of the body has wisdom. And like you said, some of it has been around for thousands of years from, Chinese medicine perspective and our perspectives.

And some is more of a newer knowledge and connections. So from my experience, we have the left and the right side of the body and there's logic to it, right? So on the left side of the body, we have the heart, and the heart is. Always more connected to the feminine aspect of ourselves than the masculine, because the heart is about feelings and intuition and I love you, don't love you, your desires, whatever is really going on for you is connected, and your internal processing.

How, do I love myself? How do I treat myself? What do I do? How do I nurture myself and others? So this connects to the feminine aspects within us. And whether you're in a male, female body, you have the masculine and feminine because you need both to function in the world. 

[00:47:57] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. 

[00:47:57] Inna Segal: Some people have more of one than the other, and some people suppress more one than the other.

For instance, spleen, from my experience, which reflects the liver. Is always connected to family one and blood, to your immune system and stuff, but is also very connected to the feminine people in your life and what your relationships were and how you experience them.

And I recently, again, was working with one of my students and she said to me, I just wake up and I have splenic issues. And I said, okay. So who in your feminine line do you feel like. The time has come to work with, and originally she said, and this is somebody who knows a lot and has studied with me for many years.

And originally she said I don't know. I don't know if I can fully connect to this. And I am a big believer in giving people time, right? I don't believe in pushing or forcing anything. And I said to her, just explore it. And as I was tuning in, she said to me, is it my mom or is it my sister-in-law?

And I was like all the people you've mentioned, Anna Moore. And she said that evening, as she sat with her, all of a sudden it came to her that she had been carrying this insane amount of guilt from the time when she was 25 or something like that. She realized what it was about and who it was about, and she started to use processes that she's learned from me to release that.

And she said it was incredible that within an hour I didn't have pain anymore because the body is speaking in this way. And then on the right side, we always have the mask on because the libo is, from my experience always to do with the masculine and how we experienced it. And so it could be different for different people.

And often, when somebody has long-term Libra issues, it starts from teenage years, even if it shows up later. Because it's when, it's the time when that part of the body starts to develop more, and we look at that from the perspective of the chakra system, each chakra develops during a particular time period.

So when you understand that, and it's always seven year time periods. And so when you start to understand that, you start to go, oh. So let's say somebody has prostate issues and I was dealing with somebody recently with that and is I know that this is teenage years and it's connected to being rejected, in terms of a masculine person feeling rejected.

And, this person was very resistant in connecting the pieces. So I had to ask around, 'cause he's part of the family, so to ask around. And I was like, it became incredibly clear that. When he was around 13 and 14, his mother left and then him and his brother, and then she made comments around, oh, it's so hard for me to be with boys.

Boys are this and that, and he never forgot this. And so even though he did not have prostate issues until he was in his mid to late sixties. When it actually began was when he was this teenage boy because this is where the body stores it. And had he worked through the issues with his mother, then there was a high possibility that he would not have had the prosthetic issues that he had.

'cause it's cumulative, right? It's the issues with the mother, it's the bad food, it's medication, it's all so many different things that then create an explosion and create cancer or something like that. It's not one thing. 

[00:52:11] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, no, it's, I don't, I agree. I don't think it's ever one thing, which is why there's layers always.

And as you talk about these core emotions, resentment or rejection or other things. I think that the more work you do around your thoughts and emotions, et cetera, that these particular themes come up a lot because we have this shared human emotional experience and we go back to core emotions.

Even if we call them lots of different words, they usually fit in buckets overall. And there's typically, part of needs. And each of these emotions can have an impair can, there can be a negative response or you can have it be a positive response as well. So there's so many ways to study this and unlayer it overall.

And I think that's good news because it can sometimes feel like, oh my gosh, will I ever get better if I've gotta unpack all of these layers? But what I want people to know is that we actually all just have a lot more in common than we think. There's typically, and I don't know what you think, but I feel like typically we can prioritize something.

There's like something. That feels very significant. And typically that's the priority, right? And so it's what is the message that I'm getting from the body? What can I learn from this? And it's been my experience, and I'm sure yours, that when we don't. Gain the lesson or learn from the body, whatever we need to learn, it will show up in a new way somewhere else typically.

Yeah. So it just moves around. It's like where one thing is not resolved, it shows up again. And generally I have more like a lot of experience with that and, other issues that are not always physical, if we're operating under the stance of that physical things in the body, have an emotional relationship, cause effect, et cetera, then that is true.

And in other modalities where there's pain release with different practices. And I think you talk about this a little bit too, like the pain will move around. It will 

[00:54:12] Inna Segal: Yeah. 

[00:54:12] Christa Biegler, RD: Move through the body. Such an interesting thing. So many great modalities. So your original book is called The Secret Language of Your Body, and you're writing another one about healing phases, right?

Is that what you said? 

[00:54:23] Inna Segal: I am, yeah. I've written three books that have been published so far and a lot of other, kind of card decks and I've done a lot of courses that people can do. But yeah, the next book is on going and understanding, delving a little bit deeper into the stages of healing, because I feel like when you are stuck, the other thing that really helps you is to go, let me look up the stage that I'm in.

Where am I at? Oh, okay. Let me breathe through it. I don't need to, I can just explore what this stage is about as opposed to getting freaked out and immediately running to medicine. 

[00:55:06] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Identifying like having something to anchor into or helping to understand. Something that helps us understand ourselves.

I don't know, has always been very helpful to me at least. And I think that's 

[00:55:17] Inna Segal: why 

I think for everyone, 

[00:55:18] Christa Biegler, RD: I think for everyone it's this is why we love to identify ourselves or do quizzes or whatnot. It is we like to understand where we are in space. And so when healing has lots of layers, it's nice to have these anchor points overall.

Inna, where can people find you online? 

[00:55:36] Inna Segal: So the best place is on my website, which is inner segal.com. And it's I-A-N-A-S-E-G-A l.com. But I really, I'm always encouraging people to take a step forward and we were speaking about steps forward. And I've created several masterclasses, I'm gonna say on different topics and each masterclass.

Is essentially like a mini workshop that guides you through, whether it is understanding your purpose, to understanding the systems of your body, to understanding archetypes and chakras and timelines as I was talking about, and gives people an opportunity to work on themselves. And I was talking to my partner in the last few years and I said, I just, I wanna create that starting point where people, the thing that people have to invest is their time, not money.

So it's almost like I'm investing money because it costs a lot of money to create these products, but I want people to just start with, let's invest time into myself and. Bring your journal, give yourself three to four hours of time and go through this journey because there's so many starting points and whether you do the workshop on the secret language of your body or the one un awakened the healer within, I will guide you through several processes and usually starting points.

And I can't tell you how many people have said that they've had incredible releases, and they're like, how is this so deep? And it gets, it gets more interesting as you go further. And then from there people can decide if they really wanna dive a little deeper and go on a journey, with me personally.

[00:57:34] Christa Biegler, RD: Perfect. Thank you so much for coming on today. 

[00:57:37] Inna Segal: Thank you.