This week, Greg “the Hydrogen Man” joins me to talk about molecular hydrogen and what you actually need to know. With hydrogen water gaining popularity, we break down what it is, how it works in the body, and why there’s so much confusion around it.

We discuss how hydrogen may influence oxidative stress, mitochondrial function, and energy. Greg also shares his personal story and how his search for answers led him into years of researching and experimenting with hydrogen through both water and inhalation.

We also get into why not all hydrogen products are created equal, why water quality matters, and how to think through trends like this without getting pulled in every direction.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:
• Hydrogen may act as a selective antioxidant
• Mitochondria play a role in energy and healing
• Delivery method (water vs inhalation) matters
• Water quality is foundational
• Not all hydrogen products are equal
• It’s easy to get pulled into health trends without context 

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ABOUT GUEST:
Greg, widely known as “The Hydrogen Man,” spent over 20 years in the medical field before a near-death experience forced him to rethink his understanding of healing. After battling severe health issues—including autoimmune conditions, chronic pain, systemic inflammation, heart disease, and immune collapse—he found little relief from conventional or alternative approaches. His breakthrough came through a spiritual awakening that led him to molecular hydrogen.

Today, Greg is a leading voice in hydrogen health, trained with top engineers in Japan and known for pioneering advanced protocols using ultra-pure hydrogen water and gas. In this interview, he explains the science behind molecular hydrogen, its role as a selective antioxidant, why water purity and production methods matter, and how hydrogen therapy may be one of modern wellness’s most overlooked tools.

WHERE TO FIND GUEST:
Website: https://holyhydrogen.com/ (who Greg endorses)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/uprising144k_/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UPRISING144K 

WHERE TO FIND CHRISTA:
Website: https://www.christabiegler.com/
Instagram: @anti.inflammatory.nutritionist
Podcast Instagram: @lessstressedlife
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TRANSCRIPT:

[00:00:00] Greg: Oxidative stress, believe it or not, has something to do with oxygen. That's why it's oxygen is actually oxidizing. And I'm not saying that oxygen's no good, but you actually need a balance.

[00:00:10] Christa Biegler, RD:  I'm your host Christa Biegler, and I'm going to guess we have at least one thing in common that we're both in pursuit of a less stress life. On the show, I'll be interviewing experts and sharing clinical pearls from my years of practice to support high performing health savvy women in pursuit of abundance and a less stressed life.

One of my beliefs is that we always have 

options for getting the results we want. So let's see what's out there together.

Alright. Today I have Greg, the hydrogen man who has spent over 20 years in the medical field before a near death experience forced him to rethink his understanding of health. Yes, the always the, always those pivotal desperation moments, right after battling severe health issues, including autoimmune conditions, chronic pain, systemic inflammation, heart disease, and an immune collapse.

He found little relief from conventional or alternative approaches. His breakthrough came through a spiritual awakening that led him to molecular hydrogen. Today, Greg's a leading voice in hydrogen health training with top engineers in Japan, and known for pioneering advanced protocols using ultra pure hydrogen water and gas.

So welcome to the show, Greg, to talk to us all about molecular hydrogen today. 

[00:01:43] Greg: Thanks for the invite. 

[00:01:44] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Okay. You turned on your camera today and you're wearing a nasal cannula, so you're prepping, wrapping heart. 

[00:01:52] Greg: I forgot, 

[00:01:53] Christa Biegler, RD: you forgot. It's too natural for you. 

[00:01:55] Greg: It's so good for me that when I sit down and I have a moment to sit down, I'm like, I'm gonna get my inhalation in.

[00:02:01] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Funny. All right cool. So we're gonna talk about hydrogen from a couple perspectives then inhalation and water. But let's just start with your story first. When did the health collapse, we'll call it, when did your health crisis happen and how are you led to molecular hydrogen? 

[00:02:20] Greg: Yeah, I started getting sick kind of a long time ago, but I was ignoring the symptoms and I was quite young, so I was able to ignore things and I just had one of those personalities, kinda like those old school guys.

We never want to go to the doctor. So I put things off, and then eventually my symptoms got so bad that I literally couldn't walk. This was embarrassing, but I literally couldn't grab remote control for the television and work the remote. I had so much pain in my joints.

And that was just a really low point for me. And I didn't really have a lot of interest in all this, like biohacking and health gurus and health coaching. I had zero interest in any of that. I always just ate whatever I wanted to eat and live my life the way that, that I wanted to live it. But, pain is a very strong motivator.

And when I was in my lowest point, which was literally the television moment, I was in my lowest point. And as we all do, and we're probably at low points, I made a prayer. I was so desperate and I just prayed to God for guidance and help. Figuring out these issues that I was encountering.

'cause of course I had tried Western medicine and it wasn't working, and I ended up going on a really long long road on trying to find out health because I became very frustrated, because I've gone to a lot of naturopathic doctors, obviously, again, western medicine, all these health gurus, health psychics tons of different supplements tons of different, machines that are promising you the world as far as what they're gonna help you with.

And I just tried so many things and so many different types of diets and it just became really frustrating because I wasn't getting better. And that's when I made that prayer, I had a very difficult time reading scientific literature. We're talking like, big stacks of just so much literature.

And again, it was frustrating. And when I would listen to podcasts, it was also frustrating because there's so much contradiction. You'll have one podcast saying, alkaline water is the best. And then somebody will be like. Spring water is the best, and no distilled water is the best. And everybody, you should eat nothing but meat.

No, you should eat nothing but vegetables. No, you should eat, and so there is no consensus. Everybody is disagreeing. And that became very frustrating too, because you don't really know who to believe what direction to go. And so I decided to start looking at a lot of I just took it upon myself basically.

I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna have to figure this out. And not that I wanted to, it's just that I did it because I wa I needed it. I was so desperate, and I needed a way to find my way out of this. And when I made that prayer, I remember just had a pure instinct. I was like, God, if you can guide me, I promise that if I find my way, that I'll share whatever I discovered with others in order to help others.

Because suffering will ruin your life. It ruined my life. I lost basically everything when I got sick. You can't get up and go to work if you can't walk. You can't even go to the grocery store. It was really a very low point. And so that's when it all started.

And it was funny after that prayer, I think it only took about two weeks. And I stumbled upon some of the very first hydrogen research that was being done. Nobody knew about anything about hydrogen at the time. This was coming out of Japan. And when I was reading it, I literally thought it was a scam.

I thought, there's no way. 'cause I'm such a skeptic, by the way, I should probably let the audience know. I'm not a guy who's easy to convince 'em anything. I really need to do my homework and double and triple and quadruple check and really make sure that it's something that I want to try or do or thinking that it might help.

And so when I was reading the literature, not really believing what it was, I literally read it for almost four years, if you can believe that. Not really jumping on it. And eventually I was like, where's this stuff coming from? Realizing this was coming from legitimate places in Japan. And then I thought, okay, how exactly if I want to try this, how am I gonna get hydrogen?

I didn't realize at the time that how you make hydrogen matters. Like I know there's like really popular products like hydrogen tablets, and I tried those in the past. Now that I've seen lab reports what I've seen in them, I highly regret ever putting that stuff in my body. But then I realized, so another popular product or like the hydrogen bottles, if you've ever seen these.

And I tried that stuff too. And of course it didn't work and I couldn't understand either. I was thinking, is it not working because the hydrogen doesn't work or is it something else? And then when I took a deeper dive, I literally had to become a water specialist. I had to learn every water filtration modality in existence.

In fact, I have a lab report right here, a third party lab test. If you were to see the kinds of things that are in our water, we're talking pages and pages stuff that really shocking you, like radioactive contaminants. I did not realize we have radioactive contaminants in our water and that it can potentially be cleaned.

And I should say, I don't give any medical advice right? Today. I'm not making any medical claims. Or even making claims for or against any products. So I just took it upon myself to try to find a lot of the answers. And when I was extremely desperate , even my lowest point, after reading about hydrogen for almost four years and trying so many diet, different diets and different stuff, I finally was like, okay, I'm willing to try this hydrogen stuff.

And I had to learn everything about engineering and the science of metallurgy, the science behind the membranes that are used, all the different ways that you can make hydrogen. I had to learn, I had to geek out on the whole thing and really learn everything there is to know about hydrogen because hydrogen's a gas and just like oxygen, it's really important for it to be clean.

In fact, if you're in a hospital and they have an oxygen tank that's medical grade oxygen it's extremely important that the purity is high. And I started realizing that almost all these machines come from China. Then I started looking at the kind of metals they're using, the kind of membranes they're using.

Even the industry tries to hide it. They don't want people to know that they're selling stuff from China, and that's a whole other conversation. I just wanted the best I could care less about the brand name, I could care less about the company. As they say, all I wanted to do was find the best hydrogen.

And eventually, as I researched more and more, it led me down a certain path. And ironically, it led me to the number one hydrogen company, not only in the world, but basically in Japan. And when I saw their stuff and I was reading their specs, I was like, why doesn't anybody make it like this? Why is there only one company?

I found that very suspicious. I'm like, why is there only one company doing it, quote unquote, what appears to be the right way? I thought I would find other companies and I didn't. And so I realized that most companies don't really invest a lot, in their hydrogen technology. A lot of 'em just buy stuff and rebrand it.

It. And the company that I found is, they actually have their own engineers and technicians. They don't buy a product and rebrand or make cheap stuff with cheap Chinese parts. In fact, their technology, they developed it all. They're the only ones in the world that have their technology. So when I started using that product, which is what I'm using right here, right now the results that I was looking for really started to come specifically.

One of the biggest ones was my heart condition, my heart. So I'm supposed to not even be alive right now, technically, according to my cardiologist. And I had a very severe heart disease. And the doctor was like you're gonna die if you don't have, surgery to fix this. And I was shocked when hydrogen I'm not making a claim, but I'll just say I started using this new equipment and magically my condition disappeared and my cardiologist just couldn't believe it.

And then when I started seeing it happen for other people I knew, I became extremely shocked and wondered, why does the world not know more about this? 

[00:09:29] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. We've gotta go way back, but I'm gonna take a second on the cardiology or the heart condition thing real fast. What were your symptoms and how did you know that anything was shifting or changing?

[00:09:41] Greg: My biggest symptoms, first I did have tumors in my body, so that was one thing that I had going on. And those I could feel, and they were painful. Some of the tumors were actually in my nerves, so they were very painful. Of course I had inflammation all over the place, so I was in so much pain that I couldn't even pick up a glass of water.

And I was like, why is this happening to me? Something's not right. And that was the majority of my symptoms as far as my heart condition. I didn't have really any symptoms. I literally would find out, every time I would go in for some random appointment and they would check my heart, they told me every single time, they're like, your heart sounds like really bad.

Have you seen a cardiologist? And I was always like, eh, I wasn't worried about it. And then when I got really good insurance, I was like, you know what, I'll just go to the cardiologist. And that's when he said. You have a major problem. And that's what they told me. I only had so many years to live or whatever, but I wasn't having any symptoms, nothing crazy.

[00:10:33] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. So going back to the beginning of your story, you have this prayer a couple weeks later, you assemble upon hydrogen, but it sounds like it takes years of fumbling around before you actually succeed with hydrogen. Is that correct? A little bit. Yep. 

[00:10:46] Greg: Yeah, absolutely. Because there was a lot to learn.

I didn't know anything. 

[00:10:49] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it maybe kept showing up in different ways, potentially. Now you brought up something you were reading research, which was tough 'cause of your condition. And you're talking about research from Japan and one of the arguments right now when you look up things around hydrogen is that there's not a lot of research around it, or we could use more research.

So let's actually go back to the 1 0 1 of hydrogen accessing hydrogen. So there's a couple of ways , you alluded to a couple of things. And I'll just acknowledge if someone is listening, but they haven't really heard about this. Hydrogen has become a very trendy thing in the last. One plus year for sure.

You've been researching it for quite a while, but it's become very trendy in the last year or two or whatever. You might feel like it's been a lot longer, but either which way it's become much more trend. It has been a while. I was thinking about trying hydrogen tablets for the first time almost, three years ago.

But anyway, so you talked about tablets, you talked which people would swallow or put in water potentially. I think it's supposed to be go in water. You talked about little bottles. So let's talk about hydrogen from a 1 0 1 perspective accessing it and how it's being applied in health and what some of the promises are, which is a loaded question, but I think you can handle it.

So let's talk about like why did it become popular? What are some of the claims around hydrogen? Do we have much research? And then let's talk about the different ways we can deliver it. But let's just start with the beginning, why do you think this became popular? What are the claims.

[00:12:13] Greg: Yeah. To answer your question about the research, and you were saying that potentially we need more research. I don't think I've ever seen anything research more. We're talking about over 2000 studies. We're not talking 10 or 20 or a hundred over 2000. That's a lot. In studying anything.

And obviously the things that they were seeing it do that was pretty shocking. In fact, there was a, have you ever heard of NHK Japanese News? It's like C Nnn or Fox. You can look it up. They did a whole story on it and they were showing a lot of the data and what the Japanese were doing with hydrogen.

But it all started actually from a mitochondrial specialist. So a guy who is a mitochondrial specialist saw the effects of molecular hydrogen, on mice. But even before that. One of the methods that I used when I was trying to find answers for my own health was I did a lot of things and I liked to weigh things against each other, but one of the things I did is I observed nature.

And that's actually how I learned how to clean water, was by observing nature.

And have you ever heard of a place called Lords, France? 

[00:13:08] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. 

[00:13:08] Greg: The healing water lords,

[00:13:09] Christa Biegler, RD: yeah. 

[00:13:10] Greg: And, for the longest time they just thought it was all placebo. Then they actually started following people around doing more tests, seeing that there really was something happening.

And nobody could figure out why they tested the water. All they ever said was that it was H2O, there was nothing magical about it. And it was the Japanese who found out that water appeared to have high levels of molecular hydrogen gas in it. 

[00:13:30] Christa Biegler, RD: Oh, that's where that started. 

[00:13:31] Greg: Yep. That's exactly where it started.

And that's why the Japanese, they're the ones who discovered that and they started trying to see the effects first on mice.

[00:13:40] Christa Biegler, RD: Very interesting.

[00:13:41] Greg: It was very fascinating. And obviously Mother Nature does this. And Lu France is not the only place. There's a place in Germany, there's a place in Mexico called Lakota, Mexico.

Yeah, there's a few places throughout the planet that have been discovered. I believe that more will be discovered. I think that we just never, we're never looking and now that we know what to look for, they might potentially find more. Yeah. And yeah. So they started doing a lot of studies and they were seeing what appeared to be a profound effect on multiple medical conditions.

At this point, there's over 200 medical conditions that they've shown hydrogen appears to be, helpful for, and that's how it really got rolling. And then they are using it medically, so it is actually being medically used in Japan at roughly 30 university hospitals. So this is not just, mom and pop shop type of deal.

Or biohackers. They're really doing it in hospital settings and they've definitely seen a profound difference, which they put on that NHK news I was mentioning. I'll try to get you that link later if you want to check that out. 

Yeah. 

And oh, go ahead. 

[00:14:41] Christa Biegler, RD: Oh, I was just gonna ask about the mechanism, a little bit of, how we, because it's claimed to be an antioxidant, an anti-inflammatory.

Right? Which can be, those are big umbrella terms typically, right? Or even antiaging. So what do we do? We know exactly what's happening when we're ingesting hydrogen. 

[00:14:58] Greg: We know some things. So nobody knows the full mechanism. Nobody's been able to figure that out. I have my own theories, but I don't necessarily go into those too much.

But like one of them that you said, it's a selective antioxidant, so it's not a normal antioxidant. 

[00:15:12] Christa Biegler, RD: It 

[00:15:12] Greg: doesn't just antioxidants indiscriminately. It does it selectively, which is very interesting. And not to mention, I think the average person doesn't even know, I don't think people have researched antioxidants enough.

One of the interesting thing about antioxidants is they literally come in different sizes. Were you aware of that? 

It's really interesting because vitamin E is different size than coq 10 different size than glutathione. Different size of vitamin C and hydrogen is tinier than all of 'em, like bi.

And the reason that's really important is because if you have an antioxidant that's big, it's like trying to put an elephant through the front door of your house. It's not gonna fit. And the beautiful thing about hydrogen is that it appears it can get literally everywhere in your body. There's nowhere that it cannot make it to, it can go right past the blood brain barrier.

Me breathing in it right now, it's literally going straight to my brain, my lungs, and it can go to any part of your body. One of the things that the number one university hospital in the world that studies hydrogen is called KO University in Japan. And they did find out that

hydrogen appears to open up what's called ghost vessels. So that was another profound finding. Obviously they found the effect on the mitochondria, so the way that the mitochondria function, which obviously helps you with energy. And they've seen a lot of things in hydrogen regards to, for example, like sports.

I believe it's gonna change the world of sports had done properly. Yeah. They did a study in Japan on soccer players, semipro, soccer players. And they found in the world of science, if you were able to if a medicine is effective 80% of the time, that is deemed a huge success. And then things get approved.

Hydrogen with this, partic with the athletes was successful 100% of the time. It helped every single athlete, improve their stamina. And so that was one interesting thing that it appeared to be doing. But they've seen it do things and I, I could tell you things that I've personally seen from arthritis, blood pressure issues, cholesterol issues, heart conditions, diabetes.

I just interviewed a doctor who tried actually my hydrogen protocol, and the results he saw were just, he said he is never seen anything like it. So I ended up interviewing him too, and he did a lot of blood work which really helped us understand, the profound differences that he was seeing.

I've seen things from lung issues, actually even eye issues that was surprising to me. People with glaucoma, macular degeneration, dimension Alzheimer's, that's been a shocking one too, because, there is no cure, right? Supposedly for dementia and Alzheimer's, and I'm not claiming any cure by any means.

But there's somebody who had used the hydrogen. It was a daughter of a woman who has Alzheimer's, unfortunately, and this poor woman couldn't recognize her own daughter. She was in a home being cared for, and she didn't recognize any of the nurses. And luckily her daughter took pictures of her before she started the regimen, but she started using the type of hydrogen that I used, and you should see the before and after pictures.

And I still remember when she wrote me the email and said things like, is this normal? Because I can't believe what we're witnessing. But after all these years of me doing this, because, I've been researching this for over a decade and really trying to figure it out and the things that I've seen it do are shocking.

It's still hard to believe. I just did a podcast myself with a woman who had a prolapse, colon dropped uterus. She had issues with her platelets. They literally thought she had cancer. They thought she had leukemia. She had a cough that wouldn't stop for over a year. She had chronic fatigue, all these issues.

And she'd been going to the doctor for quite some time and she wasn't getting better and she was very frustrated and her poor husband. Was very frustrating. They saw me on a show like this and they decided to just try it and all her issues went away and it was so shocking. Even the doctors couldn't believe it.

[00:18:47] Christa Biegler, RD: That is shocking. 'cause it feels very physical, from like literally musculature, and they seem like very different things. And I wonder, you said that the Japanese researchers found that, the healing water in Luess was hydrogen rich and I think you said it was a mitochondrial researcher that really started to take it.

But did you mention what, and it sounds like we don't really know what the hydrogen is doing to the mitochondria. I just wanna verify that. 'cause when you talk about these different conditions improving anything that would improve mitochondrial function could improve these conditions.

So how is it impacting the mitochondria or do we just not know yet? 

[00:19:23] Greg: It also appears to be liberating the body of free radicals, specifically R os, reactive ox. Yeah. Species and it works well. One of the ways that it works is through the NRF two pathway. 

Creating basically it helps liberate the body because the thing about oxidative stress here's the interesting thing about it.

Oxidative stress, believe it or not, has something to do with oxygen. That's why it's oxygen is actually oxidizing. And I'm not saying that oxygen's no good, but you actually need a balance. Any medical doctor, they should know at least that oxygen could potentially be bad for you. Supplementing oxygen too long or too often, has negative effects.

In fact oxygen's technically toxic to the body. As crazy as that sounds, people have a hard time, believing that. A lot of people argue that. But there's one really simple way to know that's the case in deep sea diving. Like when you go really deep, I don't know if you're aware that they have to remove.

Almost all the oxygen out of the tanks because it, you would literally die. And so they had to supplement, they have to replace it with, they've used hydrogen, molecular hydrogen, and they've used some helium, which is, pretty similar to it too, because they're less toxic to the human body.

And so I think and this is based on what the Japanese are saying too, is the biggest one is r os, and just in my opinion, neutralizing a lot of these free radicals. That are happening in the body. And I think something as simple as that helps, but it's so complex and it can do one thing for one person, not for another.

That's where the selectiveness out of it is out of play. 

[00:20:58] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. It's really interesting, right? 'cause hydrogen's like an atom, right? And so if we add this, in fact, just something I wasn't able to find right before this was does the chemical name change of water when we increase the hydrogen in it, right?

So water is H2O, but I don't notice that the chemical name of water is changed when we're adding that. Like when you do ozonated water, you add, O three or whatever. But I'm not seeing that with H2O. Does the chemical name change? 

[00:21:26] Greg: No, because what you're talking about is, you're talking about H2O plus H two.

So you're dissolving a gas in the water. 

And so it, it's still water. 

[00:21:36] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, it's 

[00:21:36] Greg: just carrying gas, like carbonated waters carrying is carrying CO2. 

[00:21:40] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Yeah. True. And that kind of takes me to another question about these delivery methods. So let's start with the pioneers of molecular hydrogen that are delivering it in hospital settings.

Do you know how they're delivering it? Because what I feel is a bit trendy in the US is hydrogen water. But as you wear this nasal cannula and I do see certain devices and products now where there is inhalation, so how is it being delivered in hospital settings And let's talk about the different delivery methods of hydrogen to the body.

[00:22:09] Greg: Yeah. So in hospitals they use the hydrogen gas. And what they have is they have medical grade hydrogen in tanks and they have flow meters. And so they can turn on obviously the hydrogen gas and people will inhale it. It's typically used more for emergency situations. So it's being used mostly for like heart attacks and things like strokes.

And the things that I've seen on that front too are just shocking. Also it's so hard to believe when you see it because I feel like I've been brainwashed a little bit as far as like we only believe in western medicine and if they can't fix something no one can. And the amount of money that is in western medicine when they can't fix things and then watching somebody get better, I just, sometimes I still have to pinch myself.

I'm like, this is an unbelievable Right. So that's been something that's really been profound for me. But yeah, they do mostly the hydrogen gas, hydrogen water, obviously nature, we talked about how nature makes that. And I even created my own methods and they were eventually used. So my method that I quote unquote invented was actually studied.

And my method is I use a combination. So I use a combination of the hydrogen water with the hydrogen gas. It has been shown because by the way, hydrogen water does certain things that, for example, the gas may not do and the gas like for example, when you drink hydrogen water, they've been shown like the body will start producing ghrelin, for example.

Precursor to HGH. Which is really great. A lot of times you produce ghrelin when you're fasting. And I didn't, I've never seen that with hydrogen gas. But they both have certain benefits individually. Like the gas obviously I've noticed appears to be more beneficial for the brain.

You're breathing it in, it's going straight to the brain. But it was also confusing for Japanese scientists because they were originally just interested in the gas. And I don't know who got the bright idea, but, 'cause when you inhale the gas, you're gonna get higher levels of hydrogen.

It's a lot easier to get higher levels. But then they did the water, and I don't know who thought about doing that. And then they saw the water, even though it had much less hydrogen in it. They literally saw it being more effective in some ways. 

And so again, they each have their potential and when I use them together, they appear to be doing things that neither one of 'em would do individually.

It's something that I think more research honestly needs to be done on that part because in emergency situations they use the gas, they don't have time to be making hydrogen water and giving it to people. They use the gas method. But I have seen there are medical clinics in Japan that have actually been studies, doing studies with the device.

'cause the device I use is like the number one in Japan. So the doctors there's a neurosurgeon. He says he only recommends this one machine and he doesn't get paid for it. He just said it's the best. And he would never recommend serum products for the patients that he believes could be potentially dangerous or harmful.

And even this piece of equipment I don't even think would be in existence if it wasn't for the guy who created it. It's a very interesting story. I don't know if you got a chance to read it or not. I didn't even know for a long time. And then eventually I found out that the, because I kept thinking, why is this machine so different?

I just couldn't understand why nobody else was doing one. Why is there only one company? Never makes any sense to me. It turns out that the guy had a daughter who was born very ill, and she was supposed to die by the age of roughly three or five years old. Very sad story. And he knew about hydrogen and he tried to take, the tablets and the little bottles and different equipment that was out there to the daughter's doctor.

And it was when the doctor told him, don't use any of these products on your daughter. She's very fragile and any potential impurity, could end her life or make her very sick. But he was so enamored by the science that was coming out on hydrogen because again, it was really new at the time. And then he basically couldn't find the p an piece of equipment that was making hydrogen.

In a very high purity and doing water and the gas and all these things in a way that he felt was safe or that his doctor felt was safe. So he literally went to huge companies. He went to Toyota, which is, I don't even know why they would even talk to this guy. He went to Yamaha, he went to Kobe Steel, he went to G Shock.

He went to some very big companies that had specific technology that was necessary for producing the best hydrogen that you could possibly create. And so he ended up doing that. And that's when I also found out, after many years and asking lots of questions that he was offered to, Hey, why don't you just make the machine in China, you can save some money and all this stuff.

And he said, absolutely not. He said, my daughter's life is on the line and I'm not gonna take any shortcuts. Everything's gonna be done in-house, everything's gonna be done in Japan, and I'm gonna do it the right way. And I don't care about the money. I wanna just do this the best that I can rather than trying to save money and cut corners.

And then that's when I realized that's why his machine's so different. I didn't know at the time, but after hearing that story, I even emailed him and asked him why didn't you ever share this story before? I thought it was so fascinating. And his reply was, I never wanted to use my daughter for marketing reasons or anything like that.

But apparently so many people within the company didn't even know. It was so shocking. And they all found out the real story behind this whole thing. And it apparently touched a lot of people's hearts and it touched mine. It's, I feel a great debt of gratitude 'cause I believe this has literally saved my life and I've seen it do so many other things.

And we're currently at this time because of what doctors have been researching and studying, and they even tried other hydrogen products. And I'm not gonna name brands or anything, but they did try chemical reactions. Like tablets are a chemical reaction, right? And there's different ways of doing the hydrogen.

You can directly electrolyze water, like the canan machines. You ever heard of those? 

Those directly electrolyze the water, which is not a good idea when you're trying to make the highest purity. Pure hydrogen, by the way, is actually pH neutral, so anything that manipulates pH is actually not a really good idea.

The tablets actually ironically make the water super acidic and the Kagan makes it super alkaline. And this is what I mean about the science of water. But the machine that I'm using is pH neutral. So it's everything was tried to be done at its purest form. And so I really appreciated that because I think all of us, if we want something, I don't know about you, but I wanted the best.

When your life is on the line or you're trying to get better, you just want the best. You don't want a company that's cutting corners and stuff. And I ran into a lot of that when I was doing all my research. And sadly I've learned way more than I would've really wanted to learn about all this subject.

And I was really pretty shocked and disturbed what goes on behind the scenes. Even supplement companies. I've had a lot of 'em try to recruit me and when I see how they do things behind the scenes I was really disappointed. A lot of cutting corners, 

[00:28:40] Christa Biegler, RD: yeah, for sure.

[00:28:42] Greg: Yeah. 

[00:28:42] Christa Biegler, RD: You answered, you started to talk about a couple of questions I had gotten from a listener who what do we wanted to, something that is a little bit confusing is our body is mostly made of water, but we have all of these types of water. We have structured water, which people have come on to try to talk about.

You just mentioned alkaline water. You mentioned earlier you were talking about distilled water and spring water, and you mentioned all of this information about how you got, went through a filtration rabbit hole. I wonder if you needed, I'm like pondering, like how this all fits together.

And I wanna talk, of course, about how it's made later, but 

[00:29:17] Greg: Sure. 

[00:29:17] Christa Biegler, RD: When we think about water as a whole, when we talk about hydrogen water, how do you see that fitting in the whole water conversation? Which is a weird, hard question. I don't know. Like my brain likes to use analogies and likes to make sense of things overall, and I don't know that there's a answer to the question I just posed to you.

It's like it's water with hydrogen added,

[00:29:36] Greg: I think there is definitely an answer to that. When I realized that I would have to dissolve hydrogen gas into water, what was my thought process? Was I thinking, oh, the water has to be alkaline, or it has to come from this spring, or it has to be this, that, or the other.

My thought process was, and this is a huge part for all my protocols, how about the cleanest water? How about,

[00:29:57] Christa Biegler, RD: yeah, that's what I was thinking.

[00:29:58] Greg: I'm not gonna start thinking about pH this and pH that, or where it's coming from. I don't actually care. I just want the cleanest water. So that's when I learned literally every water filtration modality in existence.

I started looking at lab reports. I could show you my favorite part of the lab report, because we all know about PF Os these days. Forever chemicals.

And if you notice here, this is PO, a couple of different types of PFOS. These are all the numbers that were found in the water.

And this is after carbon distillation, you can see zeros.

Because this is the only method I discovered. That actually truly cleans your water. Not just of a lot of pharmaceuticals and contaminants and microplastics and fluorides and all this stuff, but one of the ones that I was really surprised when I had to become a water expert was one, how about parasites, bacterias, viruses, mold, all sorts of different types of pathogens that you think your average water filter's eliminating.

You might want to think about that again. 'cause I don't really think they are after everything I've learned. And then of course, the radioactive contaminants and who does it affect the most? This is the saddest part. 

[00:30:57] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Children, people, 

[00:30:58] Greg: yeah, children, babies and children are the most vulnerable to contaminants in the water.

And so to me that is a huge problem. And you can see here, like people are like, oh, I have a reverse osmosis filter, or I have a carbon filter. This is gonna be pretty shocking to people. It was shocking to me. The whole thing was shocking to me. And this is again, learning how you actually clean water, because this is how Mother nature does it.

It actually starts with hydrogen, the sun. 

But this red line is a reverse osmosis filter, and the quality of your water is always going down with every a hundred gallons. The quality's getting worse because it has what's called a porous filter. And porous filters get dirty, right? So the quality is always going down.

Carbon distillation, which is the blue line, the water's always gonna come out the same. And so that's why I became a fan of it. Now, for people who argue geez, when you distill the water and carbon filtrate, or reverse osmosis, basically the combination, don't you remove all the minerals?

It's yes. But then I was shocked to find out also that there is such a thing as organic and inorganic minerals. And so that also makes a difference because there's a very big difference. If you're deficient in iron, do you wanna grab a piece of iron and swallow that? Probably not.

And plants are actually pretty magical, right? Because they're actually converting a lot of this stuff that's in the soil. And it puts it into the plant, like plants that are potentially rich in iron. And also I have minerals that I purchased. There's a couple minerals that I like straight from nature.

Some of 'em come from the Himalayan mountains. 

Some of the other minerals were literally taken 

outta Sheila. 

Yeah. Sheila. That's one of the ones. Yep. Absolutely. And I found a technique where I dissolve them using the hydrogen water, and I noticed that there was a correlation or a really nice synergistic effect between hydrogen and minerals.

And 'cause I've had my blood work done a lot, and in order to make sure that my protocols work, I've been doing this for a long time and I wanted to make sure that what I was doing was actually working. And I still remember the blood specialist that I chose she's been a blood specialist for over 30 years.

And I remember when she called me because she freaked me out, because if you've ever worked in western medicine, you know the doctors, they typically don't call you unless there's a problem. If everything's okay, they don't call. And she called me and I was like, oh my gosh, what did you find in my blood work?

I don't know. I was really worried or scared. And she kept telling me, calm down. All she told me was, she said, to be honest, I've never seen in over 30 years of doing this blood that looks like yours. And she said, I was so impressed I had to call you. She said, I have so many patients that are sick that I'm unable to help my own daughter's sick.

And then she opened up about herself. And that's how I've met a lot of these doctors. They either see their patients get better, or in this case she saw my blood work and I'm working with some other doctors, even scientists who did blood work on some of the people that I work with that are following some of the protocols that I would follow.

And the results were so mind blowing that they reached out to me. And so all this is gonna be coming out in the very near future, but as you already know, does how you produce hydrogen matter? Absolutely. I don't think that's, that people are talking about this enough and also does how you use it matters.

Absolutely. It's the difference between seeing really great results and potentially not getting any results. Or even worse. 'cause I've seen this too, unfortunately. People being harmed, by using hydrogen incorrectly. Water's a funny thing, right? You can drink water and it could literally kill you and make you really sick.

Or you could drink water that could potentially be really amazing for you and maybe even heal certain things. 

So it's a very thing. 

[00:34:23] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay. So you were just talking about carbon distillation as a method of filtration. 

[00:34:27] Greg: Yes. 

[00:34:27] Christa Biegler, RD: Which feel it's, the conversation is start with clean water.

And the reason I'm wondering about this is because we're gonna connect some dots here and talk about how you make hydrogen water some different options, methods, et cetera, and why it matters or what matters. But is there, so is there carbon distillation in the machine you use? Is that what you're saying?

Is it built in or are you just doing carbon distillation filtration before you. Put your water in your hydrogen water machine to make it hydrogen water. 

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[00:37:00] Greg: Yeah. So whenever I look for equipment or products, I always do it in a very non-biased way. I'm looking for the best 'cause this is for me, right? I only share what I actually use.

And so when it comes to clean the water, it's just a completely separate machine. If people wanna see what I use, it's a website called my peer water.com. And if people wanna support what I do, discount code is uprising, 1 4, 4 k, it's the name of my channel. And they're, in fact that's they do a lot of third party laptop.

That's where this actually comes from. This comes from my peer water.com. And that's one piece of equipment just to clean the water. If you've ever seen a hydrogen machine that is hooked up to like under the sink or to the tap, in my opinion, avoid it. You've already got the wrong machine.

Because the piece of equipment, the hydrogen generator that I have, which is completely separate from the one that cleans my water. You choose whatever kind of water you put into the machine. And so I choose to put the cleanest water. Could I put tap water in there? Sure. I could do that if I wanted to.

Will I do that? No not if I'm trying to get better. And so I put whatever water I want into the hydrogen generator, which is a completely separate piece of equipment. It's not hooked up to your sink or to tap water, which I really like. Actually. I like the fact that it's separate. And then of course it makes the water and the inhalation, which is really important.

And all the nano bubbles and all the other parts of the technology that are really great. But there are two separate pieces of equipment. For sure. 

[00:38:24] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about hydrogen water and how it's made. So it's, there's gonna be some probably similarities of how we end up with inhalation of hydrogen.

But let's talk about what is happening in a machine. Why do we need a machine? What is happening in the machine? What's the, is there right ways and wrong? It sounds like there's right ways and wrong ways. It sounds like there might be machines that are not making it. And how also do, does a person, besides, oh, I tried this machine and it works.

So I think one of the barriers to this is that all the machines, all the really fancy hydrogen machines are like two to $3,000 and there are cheap alternatives. And so when people are learning about something, it becomes like another expensive thing to try. And so how do we know how much hydrogen we want in the water?

And how exactly do you make it? And why does it matter? 

[00:39:15] Greg: First it matters because I actually believe that. How you produce anything matters. So for example, how you produce food, is it full of chemicals and you sprain it and is it in depleted soils and all this stuff. And so it matters how you grow food.

It does matter how you clean water. Also, your average water filter's not gonna do what a carbon distiller would do. Hydrogen's no different except hydrogen. There's many different methods Also again, chemical reactions, which I'm not a fan of. Mostly for the risk of impurities. You could always do a lab test on the pills.

Specifically look for heavy metals. And because one thing that you notice about 'em is they taste like metal usually. They don't smell very good. The color of the water turns gray usually. Like the color of metal again. And then you can check the pH. And I've noticed that every single time that I've ever checked it's always turns to acid water.

And that was odd, but pure hydrogen done in its most purest and in my opinion correct form, should be odorless, colorless. Tasteless and pH neutral. So those are the hallmarks of high molecular hydrogen gas. And when you dissolve it into the water the reason that it requires water is because we know that water's H2O, right?

Molecular hydrogen's, H2O is oxygen. One of the interesting things about it is they're both gases. So together you make water. And so what you really ultimately need, is it difficult to produce hydrogen? No. There's, again, there's many methods. You can literally get these like magnesium rods from China and put 'em in water and you can make hydrogen.

Do I wanna consume that? No, absolutely not. Because the biggest issue in producing hydrogen is byproduct. Kinda like when you put gasoline in a car, is it gonna be byproduct? Clearly there is, cars pollute. And so there's byproducts when making hydrogen, so you really wanna make sure to

do it correctly. So it's in its purest form, but that the one thing that nobody will talk to you about and tell you , and I'm gonna literally divulge this secret 'cause nobody's talking about this, is that when you get equipment that produces hydrogen, I'll use this as an example because there, there was already a big issue with these bottles.

Can you get a bottle and it makes some hydrogen? Sure. And you can get these really cheap, you can get 'em for I think 40 bucks on Alibaba or whatever. They'll companies sell them for 2, 3, 400 bucks or whatever. And as they're producing hydrogen I've known people who get one of these and within six months they're making virtually no hydrogen.

And so you're like, what happened? The metal, the membrane, now this is direct ization of the water. You're gonna find out that a lot of the equipment, this is what's it's gonna be discovered as time goes by. And I learned this from the engineering, is these machines are gonna be making less and less hydrogen.

In a very quick period of time. Not to mention when there's a lot of companies and the numbers, I don't even believe the numbers that they're given anymore, by the way. So they're claiming these outrageous numbers. For example, for inhalation, if you actually study the engineering of these machines, you'd realize how do you make higher levels of hydrogen?

What do you think of a piece of equipment would have to do in order to produce higher levels of hydrogen? 

[00:42:17] Christa Biegler, RD: I unfortunately have no idea. 

[00:42:19] Greg: Turn up the power. More electricity, right? 

And the more you turn up the machine, what do you think happens to the metals that are being used and the membranes that are being used?

A lot of people don't understand that. , Do you know how to make colonial silver by any chance? 

[00:42:34] Christa Biegler, RD: No. 

[00:42:35] Greg: So you literally put pure silver in water, hook up electricity, and when you run the electrical current, the metal literally starts falling apart. That's why it gets dissolved into the water.

So whenever you're running electricity with metal you really need to understand. Metallurgy, there's a lot of companies that make big mistakes. There's companies that literally use stainless steel for producing their hydrogen. I think that is an extremely unintelligent way to do it.

I'm surprised that it's even allowed. It's not allowed in Japan. Nobody in Japan does that because it could potentially be extremely bad for you. Not to mention, there's companies that use ly sodium hydroxide to produce their hydrogen. You shouldn't be doing that if you do it properly. There's no chemicals needed.

But the other problem is the technology as far as the electricity that is used, as I just stated, when companies wanna make higher amounts of hydrogen, they just turn up the boost, right? They just turn up the power on these machines. But that causes the internals to start falling apart after about five to 600 milliliters per minute of hydrogen gas flow.

That's what the engineering I found has shown that once you start getting to those numbers, anything higher, you might produce that at level of hydrogen for a couple months. Here you buy machines that are, I'm not kidding, you we're talking people selling 'em for five, $7,000. It's crazy. But you can buy them really cheap in China.

You can, everybody can find 'em on Alibaba, but the hydrogen production goes down quite quickly. And you won't know. You won't know that your machines hydrogen production has gone down. And you also won't know if it's a sealed system, like a sealed box. I don't like that design either. The Japanese found it's a terrible design for hydrogen.

If the membrane falls apart, you don't know that either. So now you could potentially producing certain gases and you're inhaling them and you don't know that you're inhaling these gases. So there's a lot of, in my personal opinion, a lot of potential dangers in the world of hydrogen in order to really learn how to do it correctly and properly.

And so that's been something that I never thought I'd encounter on this path. I thought it was just as easy as buying a bottle, right? Or some pills. And I thought it'd be easy, but unfortunately it's not that easy. A lot goes into doing it properly and safely. So 

[00:44:41] Christa Biegler, RD: what are some of the pieces of the machine that make hydrogen water so someone can, 'cause we're talking about what, might be bad, right?

Like metal or some of these cheaper pieces of equipment. So is, does that mean glass is used, electricity is used? What are the ingredients to infuse hydrogen into water that are needed? 

[00:45:00] Greg: So first okay, for example, when I said tablets, that's a chemical reaction. So that's one way to make hydrogen.

These, like I said, directly electrolyze the water, which is a really potentially a really bad idea because if you have things in the water and you send electrical current through 'em, people don't realize that electricity can come into contact with certain potential impurities in the water and create something else.

So this is why it's potentially dangerous. The guy who created it for his daughter, the one the name of the website's called Holy Hydrogen, so people who wanna see the equipment or whatever that I use, he designed what's called a true dual chamber system. And ultimately what that means is you put water on one side of the system where you will not drink that water, and the machine extracts the hydrogen from that particular water.

Then it has a whole other chamber, which they designed to be like a pitcher, and it dissolves the hydrogen gas within that pitcher. No electricity ever touches that water, obviously. It continues to be pH neutral. They're using literally the best metal I've ever seen of any hydrogen machine. They don't plate their metal, they don't coat their metal, which is what all the other devices basically do.

They don't use stainless steel, they don't use chemicals. They don't do any of that. And the purity is so high. They have a lot of third party lab tests also. And this is literally what the guy used on his daughter, and she is now gonna be, I believe, 18 years old. So she's a medical miracle. Her condition is so bad.

I don't believe there's anybody in the world who's ever lived as long as she has. So she's a real testament in my opinion too, what this technology could potentially do for, people's health. And so doing that properly. Not to mention the part that I didn't even think about until it took me many years to figure out how long is your machine gonna be making hydrogen, like high levels of hydrogen for, that's the question that people don't think about, right?

You buy a machine, you're using it for years, you don't think about it. One of the things I love about this company is that they test everything. And so they tested the amount that the machines make. New, by the way, every single machine that they make is lab tested and certified. Nobody in the industry does that either.

Only one company, I find that very strange, but they're the only company in the world that does that. And so they certify you get a certificate, it shows you the laboratory that it was tested, the equipment, and they have all the right equipment to, to test properly too, which has been another issue in America.

A lot of issues in America when it comes to doing hydrogen properly. And then after they did all that, they tested the machine, they did a torture testing, and after seven years of torture testing, they checked how much hydrogen it was still making. It was still making roughly 97 to 98% of the hydrogen that it made as compared to new.

Which is unbelievable. It only had a degradation of 2%, maybe 3%. That's actually unheard of. I don't think there's any machine in the world that can do that. So I was really impressed by that too, which means you can use the hydrogen for many years. You don't have to keep buying equipment and stuff of that nature.

Something reliable. In my opinion, it's very important. Just like a reliable water filter. You don't want a filter or carbon distiller to break down every six months to every year, because I've been using mine for a decade, and I would love if it keeps working kinda like a car. We're happy as long as they keep working and we can go a million miles with the car.

We're happy about that. Rather than it breaking it maybe 50 or 80,000 miles. It, the Japanese are really into reliability. That's Toyota and that's how they made their name because the Japanese they just, they do things in a very ethical way, which I really appreciate.

And so I really appreciate that. Yeah. 

[00:48:21] Christa Biegler, RD: When did you start using this machine? How many years ago was that? And then how often do you use hydrogen water or inhale hydrogen, I assume daily, but even like, how much do you consume or inhale and when did you start and how long did it take you to see changes in results?

[00:48:38] Greg: Yeah. So I started using hydrogen a long time ago. I would say roughly a decade. And I did use a lot of other equipment. So I tried, the Kagan machines, I tried the pills, I tried the bottles. I tried all this other equipment, and the biggest thing that I wasn't getting was my heart condition was not going away.

And I didn't actually expect hydrogen to make my heart condition go away because I was told that I needed surgery for it. But the more I researched, I found the hydro fix from holy hydrogen in roughly 20 17, 20 18. And that's when it came out. We're talking about a technology that's. Quite new.

And they're, to this day, nobody's even close. Nobody makes technology, there's to this day. So I still find that odd. But that's when I started using their equipment and within six months, my heart condition was gone. And that's when the cardiologist was like, what exactly happened here?

And that's really when I started realizing, yes, I felt different, but that's when I started realizing that how you make hydrogen matters. And I took a deeper dive into it and I clearly began to understand the differences of how you make it, how you use it, how do I use it? I use it regularly.

I believe that we should all be drinking good amounts of water every single day. And so what water do I choose? I choose the cleanest water and it's full of hydrogen. I didn't start doing the inhalation more often because there's a particular doctor who I mentioned earlier that I interviewed Dr.

Diego. He has type one diabetes. And so he had some, just some stuff that he really wanted to improve. He's really into his health. He's a surgeon, so he really wants to be on top of his game, which I think is very commendable and you want to be at your best. And when he started doing the blood work, it became extremely impressive.

I knew it was good already. It impressed me beyond what I was already impressed with when it comes to hydrogen. And so we were able to fine tune some of the protocols. And one of the things that we really noticed is. When the Japanese came out with their equipment, the newest one in like roughly 20 17, 20 18, it's not like they just sat on their hands and said, okay, we made the best hydrogen machine in the world.

We're done here. They continued to improve their technology, and I became really not only impressed, I was happy that they were continuing, the Japanese were pursuing perfection, and I like that they can continue to do that. And when the latest version came out and we started seeing, I even heard from employees of the company who use it, they're like, we're noticing differences.

People in Japan were noticing differences. And they're like, what exactly did you do to this new equipment? And so they literally tested it and it was so wild. It appears that they created something called, I call it sticky hydrogen. The hydrogen literally started sticking to things. Nobody's ever seen that before, ever.

And it was thrown off their readings with the equipment and they used the best equipment for testing. It was literally doing things that technically shouldn't be possible. And I even released one of the lab videos on my channel showing that. And we were seeing huge differences as far as how it was affecting us, as far as our health and everything else.

And when Dr. Diego saw those differences and saw what the inhalation was doing, I literally went out and bought the newest one. 'cause I was already using my old machine. And I became so impressed too. I'm like, I gotta be inhaling this more often. Because of the anti-aging aspect of what it does and just keeping you healthy, it's much better to prevent medical issues rather than try to treat them once you have them 

[00:51:51] Christa Biegler, RD: much faster.

[00:51:52] Greg: Yeah. 

It is so much smarter, better who doesn't wanna feel younger? And like I said, and actually the scientist slash doctor, it's a different guy who we're gonna be showing, showcasing some stuff that he's been testing. It's mind blowing. It's really impressive. So hopefully that'll be out within the year.

[00:52:08] Christa Biegler, RD: So I wanted to understand something about the machine that you use now that you started using in 27, 20, 20 18. No, you don't work for the company, but you are, or maybe you do some contract work for interviews, but you are, the owner as a colleague. But what I am trying to understand is he is sourcing his machine from Japan but in Japan, they use the same machine under other names.

Is that correct? Or it's all the same it's like a US company versus a Japanese manufacturer.

[00:52:37] Greg: My understanding is really more of a Japanese company. And they're working in tandem. So when Japan made the machine, I was really surprised about this too. They were never gonna sell the machine outside of Japan.

And I was like, why? Why aren't you guys providing to the rest of the world? I didn't realize that Japan had the most stable electrical grid system in the world.

And so I also didn't realize that when you're using electricity to make hydrogen, if you don't regulate it perfectly, which by the way, I don't think, in my personal opinion, nobody is like, nobody's doing this to the finite details that I've seen this company do it.

They explain to me about regulating the electrical current because you could have, and they noticed that this was happening with older equipment that they were developing. Because remember I told you that two chambers, right? And a lot of people have tried to copy their method of two chamber technology.

The problem is that the electricity literally arcs from one place to the area where the drinking water and it causes some potential impurities. And so when they figured that out, the computer, apparently on the machine alone costs like something like five, $600. And all it's really doing is helping regulate the electrical current.

It's kinda like blood sugar spikes that you don't want to have. It's the same thing. You get these electrical spikes and it can cause damage to the metal, it can damage the membrane it can arc into the water that you're gonna be drinking. So they were really big on regulating that. And the problem is that America doesn't have the most stable electrical grid system in the world.

And there's a lot of countries that don't really have a very good way of regulating their electrical grids. And so many requests, and I was one of these requests too, like, how can we get these machines in America? We want 'em in America. And a lot of people wanted the device and so they spent obviously engineering money, developed a new piece of equipment.

And they made a lot of improvements on it. So it ended up making actually better hydrogen. They ended up making the machine even more robust. So one of the funny things about Japan is when they ship a box to you in Japan, like UPS type of deal, you'll get the box and it'll look like it's brand new. If you get in America, it looks like it's been through World War II or something, the box is all, messed up and items oftentimes are broken.

And I don't think people care that much in Japan. They're very careful with their packages. And so they have to make the machine, they have to design it differently to withstand the rigors of it being shipped, throughout the world and being able to work with the, again, the different electrical grid systems.

Because one of the things that I found out was if you use one of the Japanese machines outside of Japan, your warranty is void. That's it. You don't get a warranty because they're not designed for that. And so they basically specifically designed this and then they had a branch that they opened in the US.

Which is in charge of international. So their design, their premium edition, it's almost like their medical edition is designed for international usage and it is more expensive. But that's how they developed, they were able to do more development. They ended up literally making better hydrogen than their machines in Japan by stepping up a lot of their technology.

And thank goodness for all of us who use their technology. And so that's how that all came to be. But they're very strict about, when the company sells it so that you get proper customer service, that you're getting authentic of equipment. Because China was, it's not just that it has been known, I've literally seen it.

People have bought in some of these pieces of equipment from like Amazon or some of these websites and I guess there are fake ones out there. And I found that out 'cause somebody reached out to me one time and said, Hey, my machine's broken. Do you know what's going on? I'm like, contact the company.

But then I got curious and they checked all the serial numbers and they said, this is not even one of our pieces of equipment. And it looked almost identical. 

[00:56:12] Christa Biegler, RD: I know, I think that's becoming more and more common for everything. Like yeah. I just found something the other day and I was like, oh, this is a knockoff from the original set.

So it's becoming very easy for them 

[00:56:23] Greg: to 

[00:56:23] Christa Biegler, RD: do. Yes. 

[00:56:24] Greg: And the Chinese apparently, I also found out, although they make a ton of hydrogen machines, apparently they love the Japanese lures hydro fix. So there are quite a few people in China who do not even use their own equipment. They want the Japanese equipment, but that's very common.

The Chinese love to go to Japan. They love to go there and a lot of people love to visit Japan. They they're very clean people and they're very respectful people. And I appreciate all those qualities and high ethics. I like the high ethics 'cause a lot of people just don't care anymore.

We've seen what China's done to their food. I'm not trying to offend them or anything. I have friends that are Chinese, but. Even they don't wanna eat stuff from their country. And 

[00:56:59] Christa Biegler, RD: I continue to meet more people who love Japan. I was at a conference with a woman who could not stop raving about it, but I wanted to ask you about, because hydrogen's a gas and whenever, peroxide is added to water, or even ozone is added to water or any kind of thing the conversation is that, oh, this is going to evaporate.

So how do you stabilize? Like maybe there is not stabilization. You don't just make hydrogen water I don't know how long it take. If you make ozone water, it takes 10, 15 minutes or something to make it, and then, just keep it for weeks, right? So how do you stabilize the hydrogen water?

Or is it not stable and you just need to drink it right then? If you're drinking if your alls you are drinking is hydrogen water, does that mean you're making hydrogen water all day long with a machine? 

[00:57:43] Greg: Yeah. So this is obviously a good question because first of all, it depends how you make it.

So if, again, you do a chemical reaction like hydrogen tablet, the hydrogen escapes so ridiculously fast. 

In my opinion, it's one of the reasons that I don't use it for potential impurities and the acidity of the water, but on top of it all, it's just not very stable. And I believe that hydrogen needs to be more stable in order for it to be more bioavailable.

And that includes even nano bubble technology. 

So that's one method. And to help people understand, if you have a machine like a water ionizer, maybe like a canyon, I'm not trying to pick on them, but a lot of people know them when that water's coming out. There is no way that it's fully saturated of hydrogen, because if you take 1.5 liters with the machine that I use, it takes half an hour to fully saturate it.

So anything that's putting out water immediately, if you really believe that it's full of hydrogen, you might really wanna, think about that again, because it takes time to, again, fully saturate water. Water filtration's another one because. If you use a water filter like from your refrigerator and the water comes out immediately, do you really think that it's getting filtered immediately?

Because carbon distillation takes three to six hours to make one gallon of water. So that's how long it truly takes to either purify water properly or truly dissolve hydrogen gas. That's, in my opinion, bioavailable into the water. The good news is, though, is that the way they designed the machine, they did a lot of things that were just genius.

Once it's done fully saturating, one and a half liters of hydrogen water, the machine goes into what's called standby. And so what that does is it maintains the levels. It's continuously trickling the hydrogen, so it just maintains it at full saturation and it's way more stable than any hydrogen I've ever seen.

So if you pick up the pitcher and you pour a glass, you don't have to drink it in five seconds. Like a lot of the people who promote the tablets say, oh, you gotta drink it in five seconds. Like you don't have to do that. It takes me typically two minutes to drink down, a good half liter of water.

You wanna do it relatively quickly, but if you want the science behind it for this method, you know the method from holy hydrogen machine, that method. If you, if the water's at 68 degrees and you're in a room that's 68 degrees and you pour it into a glass and you set the glass down, all the hydrogen will be gone in one hour.

So it's not five seconds, it's not 50 seconds, it's one hour, but you also have to consider that in half an hour. Then you probably have lost half your hydrogen. And so you really want to get the most that you can get in you, because the body does appear to require, for it to be like what I would call therapeutic.

In my opinion you really need decent levels of hydrogen, both. Again, the amount of water and the gas. That's my personal method is doing both. And water's foundational to life anyway. We should all be drinking water anyway, so it might as well be hydrogen water. And and like I said, the way it's affecting the endocrine system, has been pretty profound.

I learned this from Dr. Diego because whether it's your pancreas or thyroid, just different glands, they're even using it. It's really ironic that they're using it for fertility. I worked with a doctor who's having a hard time getting pregnant, and she got on the same protocol I've been doing, and boom, she got pregnant, had the baby, everything happened great.

But in Japan, they have certain clinics that are fertility clinics for both men and women. But to me, what that tells me is, we do, we have seen that it appears to have powerful anti-aging properties, to it. So to me, anything anti-aging is most likely gonna be good for your health. That's my personal opinion.

And I'll tell you why. There's a statistic. If this was a pile of money, and let's say this is all the money you will ever spend in medical care throughout your life. This is your lifespan. Did you know that the last 10 years of your life, statistically you will spend 90% of all the money you'll ever spend in healthcare.

So you clearly spend the most money as you get older. And I think that's pretty obvious to us when we really think about it. As you get older, more medical problems, and I tend to see the hydrogen being the most beneficial for the elderly. So the older people are, I see the biggest be, 

[01:01:39] Christa Biegler, RD: That would make sense if it supports mitochondrial function, because that's really the difference in aging is like you have less mitochondria as you age, it degrades.

So if you're improving mitochondrial function, then in theory everything should get better. And I like to oversimplify everything and oh, that would make sense. Like we're calling it all these different things, but maybe it's partial, maybe that's one of the main mechanisms.

Okay. So stabilizing with the machine you use, which is much more infused, an hour of stab stability for the hydrogen water. It takes about an hour and a half to make it. 

[01:02:11] Greg: Unless you put it it takes 30 minutes to make it. 

[01:02:13] Christa Biegler, RD: 30 minutes. Okay. 

[01:02:14] Greg: A liter and a half. But they also have these special hydrogen bags from Japan and if you put stable hydrogen water in there from the Lord's hydro fix and you put it sideways in the refrigerator, it'll hold the hydrogen for over a week.

So that's cold temperatures, the hydrogen will stay in the water longer. The hotter it is, the faster the hydrogen leaves. 

[01:02:33] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Interesting. So interesting. I think, this is one of those topics that is a little bit hard to wrap the brain around, but if I try to oversimplify it, it's a big conversation about electricity and current changing or helping to change, is it structure?

I guess it would be partially structure or infuse something into the water, which reminds me like I look for similarities across. Topics, disciplines, experts, et cetera. And so there's some people that talk about cellular voltage and other things that are related to electrical that feel like a little bit different way to think about health in a way.

For some reason it feels different, but it makes, if we think about minerals and you were talking about, you're actually putting your minerals into your hydrogen water, so you're supercharging everything. And I do think that makes sense along those same lines. So it's just one of these topics that's okay, it takes some time for your brain to wrap your head around.

And I wanna clarify something. You've mentioned Kang and water, it's been around for a long time. People are somewhat familiar with it. It's usually marketed as a alkaline thing, but it's also hydrogen. You're saying it's just like a lot less kind of, 

[01:03:32] Greg: If you wanna really know the history about it, it's funny because and I wish, all I want is the truth, right?

But some reps, they don't like me saying this, but this is what was found in Japan. So when they first started testing the king in water. There's a very big difference when you look at research between short-term data and long-term data. And Kagan's a perfect example because in the short-term data it looks so good.

It was so promising. That's why everybody was like, oh my goodness, what is going on with this Kagan machine? It appears to be helping people so much in the long term. People started seeing problems and they couldn't understand why would we see benefit at the beginning? In potential detriment in the long term?

And 

this is what they found out. One, when you're alkalizing the water through ionization, your stomach is designed to have certain levels of stomach acids because they have a function. They break down the food so that you can absorb nutrients properly and they're also, it's also there to kill pathogens.

And this alkalinity from the kagans was appearing to affect the stomach acids in a negative way. So that had one, one issue in the long term. Then why was there benefit in the first place? You remember everybody kept saying, oh, the alkaline water, this is the magic. This is the magic Look. If alkaline water was the magic, you could literally put baking soda into water and voila, you have alkaline water and it's not gonna be super magical.

In my opinion. What they found out is that the king and machines were by accident making some hydrogen when they're brand new. The problem is that after three months, sometimes less, what did I tell you? Their hydrogen production goes down, so you're literally getting virtually no hydrogen. You'd have to send a machine somewhere to get certain maintenance, and it might make hydrogen for a little while again, but in my opinion, they're never, they were never making it right.

One, they hooks up directly to your faucet. You're using their water filters, which I'm not a fan of their water filters. I've seen lab tests about their water filters I'm not a fan of and doesn't offer inhalation, and it's not really fully saturating the water with hydrogen. So once they found out that they were making some hydrogen, well of course their marketing's gonna be like, oh, the market, the hydrogen is becoming the big deal now.

So forget the alkaline water. Now. We're a hydrogen machine. The machine's the same machine. Nothing ever changed. And so that was what happened with the whole Kagan thing. And a lot of people think, oh, it's being used in hospitals, it's not being used in hospitals. I know a lot of people say that the only thing that, that machine does, in my opinion, that's any good is it can make the disinfecting water.

That's great. It can wash off some pesticides off the food, but I would personally, I'd never drink that water. After knowing everything that I know, I would never drink it. And the equipment to make hydrogen waters extremely different than water ionizers like king and machines and whatnot.

But hopefully that explains a little bit of the history 

[01:06:07] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. 

[01:06:08] Greg: Behind that. 

[01:06:08] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Yeah. Definitely a lot to chew on. And I think that you mentioned that you saw a difference in your heart issues after six months, but how long do you think it took you to initially notice a difference when you started using this kind of hydrogen water?

[01:06:25] Greg: Yeah. It was about three or four months is when I really saw the difference. Most of the people that I work with, like I said, I could name off all sorts of medical issues that I remember. Even things, a lot of gut issues too. Hydrogen, that's another one where hydrogen water appears to be much better for the gut as compared to the inhalation.

And I've seen people with Crohn's disease, celiac disease, IBS, leaky gut, and even autoimmune issues, which is one of the things that I had because a lot of autoimmune issues are related to the gut. Almost 80% of our immune system comes from our gut. So I did a lot of protocols. I've created my own protocols and like I said, pretty shocking what I've seen.

I never thought in a million years I'd be trying to create a health protocol for myself. And then seeing what it was doing, even for skin stuff. I used to have a lot of skin issues myself, and that was another one that was pretty miraculous. And they have seen that hydrogen helps with collagen production.

So in Japan, it's not only used as a PUD product, and there's a clinic that's testing it for Alzheimer's and dementia. Even TBI I had a really amazing testimonial about TBI for a woman who it was a sad situation. She had a really hard time cognitively, she had a really bad accident. I didn't know that she wanted to end her life because it was disrupting her life so much.

And luckily she saw me on a show and she decided to reach out and the results were phenomenal. I really wanted to do, we did do a testimonial video in the past. But then she got paranoid about AI and her face being out there, so she requested it to be removed. But I've seen those type of things, again totally shocking.

I think it's gonna, there's a clinic too that I know that's using it in collaboration with things like ozone with things like red light therapy, see a lot of these treatments, but people don't realize about a lot of these treatments that they're actually oxidative by nature. 'cause ozones an oxidant, and ozone can burn just like food grade, hydrogen peroxide, 30 something odd percent it will burn and it's oxidizing. But there's benefits to oxidation, right? You can kill pathogens, you can do certain things with oxidation, but you really want to, in my personal opinion, we've seen huge things when we use hydrogen in collaboration.

And that clinic, originally I released some pictures and some of the results because like one of the girls it was really sad story. She's like 26, 27 years old. I'm gonna interview her soon. She had a stroke, if you can imagine that at her age. And when she had the stroke, she know she was literally drilling all over herself.

She couldn't dress herself she just couldn't take care of herself and she lost her life. And that was always very sad. Those are the things that I feel like I'm put on this earth actually to help with all this stuff, even though it wasn't the path that I specifically chose. And I got the most beautiful email from her mother.

'cause they were using equipment from China and they didn't know the difference and they weren't seeing differences. And then there's this clinic that they're working with and the clinic knew about me, so they changed their hydrogen protocols because they weren't seeing anything.

And then they started using the Japanese equipment. And I remember the guy getting back to me, he's oh my gosh, what a difference. We're seeing crazy stuff. And so he started taking pictures. That girl who had the stroke, she completely got her life back. She had been going to doctors for almost two years, and her life all been all screwed up.

And then when she got her life back, I got the most beautiful email from her mother. Where she said, you gave me my daughter back. She said, I never thought she'd be the same. And now she's back to being normal. She's working she's helping, take care of the kids, babysitting and all these, different things.

And that's exactly what I think is so meaningful about doing things the right way instead of cutting corners always about profit, which is what I've learned, embarking on this journey. And I always hate that. And I always think that it's beautiful when somebody just, they're just trying to do it for, out of love.

I believe that if you do something out of love you're doing, it has to do with God. I believe that, I think I remember there's a really famous lying in the Bible where Jesus is asked like, of all your teachings, if you could simplify it, what's the most important thing?

And he didn't say that the most important thing is to go and give money to churches and stuff like that. He said, love one another. I have loved you and I believe that anything that we do in love, whether we grow food with love and we don't wanna use chemicals, whether you produce a hydrogen machine, whether you produce a water filter, like you do it at the highest level of love because you know it's gonna touch other people's lives, both positive or negatively, depending on how good of a job you do, producing whatever it is you choose to produce in life.

And so that's why I'm so touched by it. And I know that it saved my life and I've seen what it does for other people. And to me that's actually what feeds the soul. By the way, a lot of people say that they feel empty inside and they don't know why they feel empty inside. And you could have all the money in the world and fancy cars and fancy houses.

But to me, the way you feed your soul is when you love others in whatever aspect that is. I think that we could do it in many different ways in this world. And and so I only hope to be able to do that with the small amount of life that I'll be on this planet. 'cause we all live very short lives.

Obviously we don't live very long, sadly. And so might as well do something really good while we're here because the whole near death experience that I had, that's what I saw when on when I went to the other side. I saw that anything, the only thing that you take with you, 'cause you're not taking the money, right?

You're not taking your fancy car, you're not taking your clothes that are fancy. What I saw was the only thing you take with you is both the good and the bad that you have ever done to others, and you will feel it. And that really gave me a different perspective on life. And so it's very clear to me how I wanna walk my life and how I wanna live because I want to I know I'm gonna be headed there someday.

And you don't want to go there, be like us 

[01:11:33] Christa Biegler, RD: all 

[01:11:34] Greg: exactly like all of us. And being good and it's a good lesson to 

[01:11:38] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. 

[01:11:38] Greg: World thumb. 

[01:11:39] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a lovely place to end is beautiful closure to there. So Greg, thank you so much for coming on today. Where can people find you online?

[01:11:49] Greg: Yeah, so if people wanna support what I do, it's all free. So I'm on YouTube again, this channel's called Uprising one four 4K Rumble, Twitter and Instagram. They're the only four places I'm on, but I would suggest subscribing to all of them. Because when you subscribe to all of 'em, if something happens to one channel, the only way you're gonna find me is through one of the other ones.

And there have been a lot of threats, unfortunately. And so if you wanna stay connected to the things that I'm doing and I'm always trying to share the best data and, I get the threats because I'm going against the grain, I'm really not, supporting a lot of these companies because I don't wanna support people who don't do things from the highest love.

So I don't even wanna be a part of it, no matter how much money they've offered me, I'm not gonna do it. And I will continue to do what I originally promised, which is share everything that I personally do for myself. And I only wanna do the best, for others and myself.

[01:12:37] Christa Biegler, RD: Cool. Thank you so much for coming on today.

[01:12:39] Greg: Absolutely. Thanks Christa.