Energy Leaks, Building Capacity & Martyrdom with Helen Eimers

In this episode, I’m joined by Helen Eimers for a conversation about the hidden beliefs, energy leaks, and patterns that may be keeping us stuck. Helen is also my sister-in-law and one of the very first guests I ever had on the podcast, so it was a special treat to welcome her back for a second conversation. We explore why so many high-achieving women find themselves exhausted despite doing all the “right” things, how self-sabotage often stems from parts of ourselves that simply want to be seen, and why healing isn’t about fixing or erasing our wounds. Helen shares her perspective on building capacity from the inside out, the role of self-compassion in lasting change, and how gratitude, curiosity, and learning to receive support can help us create more energy, fulfillment, and freedom in our lives.

If you'd like to listen to Helen's first appearance on the podcast, you can find that episode here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/775589/episodes/2341202

KEY TAKEAWAYS:
✨ Stop fighting yourself and start getting curious
✨ Hidden beliefs may be draining more energy than you realize
✨ You can't think your way through everything—you have to feel it too
✨ Martyrdom, burnout, and people-pleasing often go hand in hand
✨ Receiving support is just as important as giving it
✨ Lasting change happens when you build capacity from the inside out

ABOUT GUEST:
Helen Eimers is a Success Coach, certified conscious heart hypnotherapist, speaker, and author who helps ambitious women overcome self-doubt, burnout, and inner resistance so they can create sustainable success and fulfillment. Drawing on her background as a registered nurse, Helen combines practical strategy, mindset work, and hypnotherapy to help women build confidence, clarity, and alignment from the inside out. She has spent more than a decade guiding women toward greater capacity, purpose, and intentional living.

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TRANSCRIPT:

[00:00:00] Helen Eimers: [00:00:00] Because often we just let those emotions run the show. We let our circumstances define who we are and we create these beliefs that lead the show, and then we don't wanna look at them because it's really hard to do that.

[00:00:12] Helen Eimers: Or we don't recognize that they're there,

[00:00:14] Christa Biegler, RD: I'm your host, Christa Biegler, and I'm going to guess we have at least one thing in common, that we're both in pursuit of a less stressed life. On this show, I'll be interviewing experts and sharing clinical pearls from my years of practice to support high-performing, health-savvy women in pursuit of abundance and a less stressed life.

[00:00:44] Christa Biegler, RD: One of my beliefs is that we always have options for getting the results we want, so let's see what's out there together

[00:01:02] Christa Biegler, RD: All right. Today on the Less Stressed Life, I have back with me Helen Eimers, who is a success coach, certified conscious heart hypnotherapist, speaker, and author. This is just fun to read this bio because we're gonna talk about the first episode she was on nine years ago. So it just like, brings me joy to see the evolution in general with all of this in the first line of the bio.

[00:01:23] Christa Biegler, RD: She helps ambitious women stop fighting themselves and start building capacity from the inside out. With a background as a registered nurse, Helen brings both clinical grounding and deep intuitive wisdom to her work, blending strategy, hypnotherapy, and mindset tools to help women release the inner resistance that quietly drains their energy, confidence, and results.

[00:01:44] Christa Biegler, RD: Helen has spent 10 plus years helping driven women move from burnout and self-doubt into clarity, alignment, and sustainable success. She lives in South Dakota with her husband, Corey, three children, chickens, and a sourdough starter named

[00:01:59] Helen Eimers: [00:02:00] Jeffrey. Jeffrie. With an I-E.

[00:02:02] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay. We were talking about that 'cause I had some wild rabbits for a month named Jeffrey.

[00:02:07] Christa Biegler, RD: Her family trades her house for a camper on the river, where she teaches yoga and paddleboard yoga every summer and practices what she preaches, living life by design. And sometimes I cut people's bios 'cause they're long, and I almost cut that part, but then I kept it 'cause it was all the personality, and it's like where you are, and it's actually quite fun to wake up in nature every day.

[00:02:29] Christa Biegler, RD: I love visiting you there. So welcome back to the show, Helen.

[00:02:33] Helen Eimers: Thanks, Krista. So good to be here.

[00:02:35] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. So I reached out to Helen recently. We're having- Kind of had a mild aha moment with the podcast where I realized, "Oh my gosh, it's nine years since the podcast has been in existence." And so I started going back to the beginning and just looking at what happened at the beginning.

[00:02:51] Christa Biegler, RD: And I thought really to celebrate this it's monumental in a way, right? And so in order to celebrate this time, and I love stories of [00:03:00] evolution and pivots and reinvention and all of the things I thought it'd be so fun to go back to some guests that we had in the early days.

[00:03:08] Christa Biegler, RD: So Helen was first with us on the Less Stress Life on episode number two in July of 2017, the title being Debilitating Back Injury to Dominating Life with Registered Nurse Helen. And some of our bullet points about that was that you were a nurse for nine years before that, which is really also weird when we talk about these t- multiple decades.

[00:03:35] Christa Biegler, RD: Who used to think that Krista's... Kri- Helen is my sister-in-law, by the way.

[00:03:39] Helen Eimers: Very grateful for that.

[00:03:41] Christa Biegler, RD: I'm very grateful too, very blessed with the best sister-in-laws. This is the bullet points. Helen is Krista's sister-in-law who used to think Krista's healthy eating was crazy.

[00:03:52] Helen Eimers: Absolutely.

[00:03:53] Christa Biegler, RD: Helen struggled with weight throughout life despite heavy exercise, running up to 10 miles daily because she felt... [00:04:00] And I, sometimes this is hey, I asked AI to transcribe and make bullet points. This is like the use of AI. I'm like, I'm like- Yeah ... "Hey, I need you to make me some bullet points- Thank you

[00:04:08] Christa Biegler, RD: of what this was," right? They

[00:04:08] Helen Eimers: they did a great job. Yeah. What's her name? You gotta name it too. Yeah.

[00:04:13] Christa Biegler, RD: In early 2016, she started a holistic health journey and lost weight and got off thyroid medications that she'd been on for 10 plus years, which is super cool. In November 2016, so we recorded this July 2017, in November 2016, she woke up...

[00:04:26] Christa Biegler, RD: So what's so serendipitously bizarre about this is I haven't really had too many discussions about herniated discs before, but like just two days ago, I was talking to one of my clinician friends who had a herniated disc. I'm like, "Wow," and I was thinking about you. Anyway, she woke up with a herniated disc.

[00:04:43] Helen Eimers: I think more people have them than they think. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:04:45] Christa Biegler, RD: Oh, so she woke up with a herniated discs, two discs that were herniated, with no clear injury event, which left her quad into a full spasm. Her leg went numb. She couldn't stand or walk. The main thing I remember about that was that you said you were, like, curled up in a [00:05:00] fetal position on the floor- maybe just praying about that. Multiple doctors recommended surgery. She sought second opinions. This is a very common thing to do as a health provider. You're like what else do I have? What other options?" There was a time in my practice where probably, you know, 30% or more people were health professionals, right?

[00:05:17] Christa Biegler, RD: Because we're "Let me see what else I could do besides the deepest intervention." So multiple doctors recommended surgery. She sought second opinions, advocated for herself, and found a chiropractor who helped her significantly. She started an anti-inflammatory diet, and within seven days she had no pain, and during that time lost weight and another several inches during these three weeks.

[00:05:40] Christa Biegler, RD: Additional benefits were that she had better focus and more energy and clearer skin and less bloating. A physical therapist she saw had doubted she could do a headstand, but she did one before leaving for a, it says Mexico work trip.

[00:05:53] Helen Eimers: Yeah. I was in Mexico for Beachbody because I'd earned a trip there when I was doing success coaching there with Beachbody.

[00:05:59] Helen Eimers: And yeah, A [00:06:00] month earlier I was like, "I'm gonna have to cancel my trip." 'Cause I was going to Mexico to Riviera Maya, and did I go to Belize that year too? I think I had two trips back to back. I don't think it was Belize, but yeah. I was worried I'd- Interesting ... have to cancel my trip.

[00:06:12] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay.

[00:06:13] Christa Biegler, RD: She did one before leaving for her Mexico work trip, two months after her injury. Seven months after being unable to walk, she went paddleboarding, did yoga headstands on the paddleboard, and went skydiving the same day. I remember that last part. The key takeaways were educate yourself from trusted sources, get second opinions, be your own health advocate, and mindset is foundational to healing.

[00:06:31] Christa Biegler, RD: I didn't know we were kindred spirits on the skydiving. I just put my skydiving club jacket away for- Oh ... another day. That's funny.

[00:06:38] Helen Eimers: Yes. I went with my friend Abby Bacon, Yeah ... for her, I think it was her 30th birthday. And she's "You're the only one crazy enough that I know- ... that will come with me."

[00:06:45] Helen Eimers: And I was like, "Of course I will." Oh. My Enneagram is "Yep, I'm along for the ride. Let's go do this."

[00:06:51] Christa Biegler, RD: That's so funny. Okay. So I wanted to share those bullet points because here we are nine years later, and we've evolved. And your [00:07:00] work has evolved. You've written, you've done a lot of speaking, which has been super fun.

[00:07:05] Christa Biegler, RD: You and I have done retreats together, so if anyone's ever been on a retreat you probably met Helen. So I'd like to hear a little bit... And then I- I'd reached out to you and asked, what messages would you wanna share with the audience today, right? Knowing that there's like the world is an oyster here.

[00:07:19] Christa Biegler, RD: There's a lot of options. And so we're talking a little bit about holding hands with the enemy and really what prevents us from being successful, how we sometimes, I'll call it self-sabotage. And so often many of us are doing the right things- We're doing exactly what we're told to do, maybe a protocol, maybe a program, maybe some kind of inner work.

[00:07:37] Christa Biegler, RD: But we still can feel like there's a hole or that there's something sabotaging us. And it's funny now that I say all these things aloud. It came up like multiple times this week a lot. I think this is a topic for all of us to start to look at. And I think about the time I asked you what you wanted to share, you felt pretty inspired by a client session, so you have a very specific story,

[00:07:58] Helen Eimers: Yeah

[00:07:58] Christa Biegler, RD: About what sparked what you [00:08:00] wanna talk about today. So give us that. Feel free to fill in anything in your story that you want to, but otherwise you can tell us about this client story that kind of sets us up for what you wanna share today.

[00:08:11] Helen Eimers: Absolutely. So fun to go down memory lane, and-

[00:08:14] Helen Eimers: Bizarre and bittersweet to think that nine years ago I was in a much different place. We both were, right? And so thinking about that time in my life where I was literally debilitated, and what was interesting is that I was in the best shape of my life, yet this injury happened. And as Krista said I was someone who, needed to get the steps in.

[00:08:37] Helen Eimers: I needed to sweat, or else it wasn't a workout. Literally, my cortisol levels were so high. I had such crazy inflammation because My worth was in my work, right? And people, that carries into exercise, that carries into work, that carries into being, in quotes, "a good mom," all of the things that we really try to do as overachievers, as high achievers because we're very driven women.

[00:08:57] Helen Eimers: And so what was interesting is I was so [00:09:00] angry, 'cause I'm like, "Wait, I'm in the best shape of my life," right? And that just tells you that you can achieve anything with any thought, right? And so even if you have thoughts that don't fully support you or standards that don't fully support you, you can reach your goals and your dreams.

[00:09:15] Helen Eimers: But likely they won't be everlasting, or they'll feel really awful in the midst of it. And Looking back that's, I feel like, what happened, right? I had done so much self-discovery and so much work, but there were still pieces of me that were trying to heal that I was like, "Sorry, you're not there.

[00:09:31] Helen Eimers: Sorry, this isn't happening right now." And that's what I'm talking about when I talk about holding hands with the enemy. So I remember you had messaged me, "Hey, do you wanna come back on the podcast?" And that day, I had a powerful hypnotherapy session, as they all are, with one of my clients who was doing tremendous work.

[00:09:48] Helen Eimers: She was phenomenal. Should be celebrating. And I don't like to use the word should, but she's three years sober. She's healing her relationship. She's going to different therapies and modalities to support herself and [00:10:00] work and walk through grief, and she was showing up every day.

[00:10:02] Helen Eimers: But she could not even see any of it to celebrate it. She just kept focusing on what she hadn't done, what she needed to do. And I remember very vividly, she's " I just wanna heal this wound." And there was a moment where I said You can never heal the wound, and let me explain.

[00:10:22] Helen Eimers: Most of us want the wound to be gone, to never be there, but that is an illusion, right? The wound, the trauma, whatever we're experiencing in life, in our past, it happened. And so when we wish it away, when we will it away, all we're doing is really creating this kind of festering wound within us. And she just really described this badge of honor around suffering that was instilled with her since childhood, right?

[00:10:46] Helen Eimers: Like- ... in order to be a good mom, I need to sacrifice these things, or in order to have a good relationship I must be the one to suffer. Those subconscious thoughts that are running the show behind the scenes. And she just described [00:11:00] that and in hypnotherapy it's a beautiful way to not rip out those beliefs, right?

[00:11:05] Helen Eimers: Because they're rooted from when we're a child, not rip them out, but to have a conversation with them. But many of us- ... wanna just rip them out and say it never happened, or we want to suffocate them. Be like, "Shh, shh, stop. Stop." And because that's the self-sabotage that comes up, and then we feel that shame or guilt.

[00:11:23] Helen Eimers: So she really described this badge of honor like a wax seal sitting on her heart, and I help women- ... visualize this because when we can see it, then when we own it and acknowledge it, then we can change it. We can shift it. We can love it, 'cause it's a part of us. And then she tried to brush it off.

[00:11:40] Helen Eimers: She's it really doesn't matter that much." And I was like, "Okay." But I could feel the words from her this was controlling her every move, and so I could feel that wasn't true. But she wasn't ready to look at it, because she didn't want it to be there at all.

[00:11:53] Helen Eimers: This shouldn't be here. And I hear this a lot from women, and even myself. It's this should be easy, right? This should be [00:12:00] easier. I've done the work. I've read all the books. I know the strategy. I know what to do. This should be easier. There should be a point where I can just kinda lay back.

[00:12:08] Helen Eimers: And so instead of trying to remove it, I asked her, "How does that part of you feel? What does it need?" And she said, "It just needs to be heard. And I said, "Okay, what are you saying to it?" And she immediately started trying to give this piece of her advice. And she felt awful right away, and I said, "Oh, that's so interesting because it didn't ask for advice at all.

[00:12:26] Helen Eimers: It just wanted to be heard and seen." And in that moment, then everything shifted for her, where she could actually see it out of a place of love and compassion, right? Because often we just let those emotions run the show. We let our circumstances define who we are and we create these beliefs that lead the show, and then we don't wanna look at them because it's really hard to do that.

[00:12:49] Helen Eimers: Or we don't recognize that they're there, right? So she wasn't failing, she was just really coexisting with that part in a way that created constant friction for her and her relationships and in her life. [00:13:00] So when she stopped fighting it, the energy that she'd been spending on fighting this battle now became available to her.

[00:13:10] Helen Eimers: And I'm curious, all of you listening right now, is like, how much energy do you spend trying to fight these battles within?

[00:13:18] Christa Biegler, RD: A lot. This is what takes up our capacity- Yeah ... very often. I was just thinking about as you were describing this, I was imagining this as a how it would play out.

[00:13:27] Christa Biegler, RD: I was wondering if, it sounds like, I don't know if, I am assuming you've worked with this person for a while, but I assume that you are talking about this session that you had done, right that day where you're taking- ... her through this essential process where she's meeting that part of herself, right?

[00:13:43] Christa Biegler, RD: So like- Yeah ... first of all, how incredible to have the willingness to do that, right?

[00:13:47] Helen Eimers: Yes.

[00:13:47] Christa Biegler, RD: So I think that's pretty cool. And then second, because I think, if I think about trying to do something like that at different parts of my life with my healing journey and that we're all onions and we have to peel apart, is that I had such a protective coating for a long [00:14:00] time, it would be hard for me to even drop into a place like that.

[00:14:02] Christa Biegler, RD: And that can be in a hypnotherapy type session or a, which I might have you define later- Yeah ... or now or any time. Maybe now is a good time about what is hypnotherapy. Like for me even doing breath- and we all have these even these preconceived notions about what we think that is, so I think sometimes defining it, right?

[00:14:18] Christa Biegler, RD: Because there's so many different flavors of something. But anyway, my point is so for a large part of my life, one of my protective shells would not have allowed me to even drop in and even access something like that. So what a testament to her growth. Yeah ... but she wasn't able to see that, right?

[00:14:33] Christa Biegler, RD: And you said, I wrote down, I was like, oh, the battle that she was literally unaware that she was fighting, right? It's like, why do you feel so drained? 'Cause you've got a whole subconscious battle going on underneath- Yeah ... everything, right? And 95% of our thoughts are all- in our subconscious, right? 5% are actually in our logical brain.

[00:14:50] Helen Eimers: 90% of those 90,000 are, like, repetitive, right? They're just like, yeah.

[00:14:55] Christa Biegler, RD: Soundtrack.

[00:14:55] Helen Eimers: Yeah. She's

[00:14:56] Christa Biegler, RD: yes. I call them the what is the soundtrack you are playing.

[00:14:59] Christa Biegler, RD: But you were [00:15:00] talking about how such a resonant issue that was you described how, we should be celebrating.

[00:15:06] Christa Biegler, RD: And I thought of a client who even said something like this months ago. I just remember her saying it. I always call it shoulding on yourself, right? I shouldn't have even let myself get to this state. And it's like sometimes you don't really control certain things when you're in it at that moment, right?

[00:15:21] Christa Biegler, RD: Sometimes- Yeah ... a thing needs to happen. But I also thought about as you were describing this client who, as you said, should be celebrating the sobriety and the healing that she had done, but she couldn't see or celebrate any of it. And this was actually probably one of the hardest things I was unequipped to deal with for the first many years of my practice.

[00:15:40] Christa Biegler, RD: And I was seeing this all the time. And I could give you specific examples around what I was advertising to, how severe it would get sometimes. But what I would see was people moving the goalpost. They would hit the goal, and so because they had achieved that, no celebration. And I'm not really a lot...

[00:15:58] Christa Biegler, RD: this was, we're all [00:16:00] mirrors. It's like-

[00:16:00] Helen Eimers: For sure ...

[00:16:01] Christa Biegler, RD: son of a gun, am just like this, too, right? And so we achieve, and then we move the goalpost. That in itself- ... is exhausting, right? And so I remember it was very whiplash-y to me for a while in practice because people would do this around weight loss a lot.

[00:16:15] Christa Biegler, RD: 'Cause I wasn't very interested in weight loss for a lot of reasons. I think it's got a lot of layers. And so it's like I got a lot of other layers I'm working on with people, so it's not a primary thing I'm interested in working on. So when someone comes to me and then they were changing their things, and all of a sudden one day on the notes it was like, "Oh, I haven't lost this 20 pounds," it's I'm sorry.

[00:16:33] Christa Biegler, RD: I thought you were, like, 75% better. What is going on right now? And then I look at the notes, and it was like, oh, you had already accomplished everything else you came here for, so now you just moved the goalpost to this other thing you really hate about yourself, right? And so anyway, those were the things that came up for me when you were talking about this particular client.

[00:16:52] Christa Biegler, RD: And so maybe let's start with defining the hypnotherapy a little bit just so we can come into this room a little bit with you. And what an interesting visual [00:17:00] this wax seal that she had. So one, just incredible that she could drop in, but two, just give us a little bit of understanding around hypnotherapy so we can understand it correctly versus our preconceived notion.

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[00:18:18] Helen Eimers: Absolutely. So there are several different forms of hypnotherapy, and honestly, when I signed up for my certification in conscious heart hypnotherapy, I didn't even research them. I didn't even know anything about it. I had received this modality, and I came out of it able to see things I had never seen before and love myself in the moment as I was seeing those deep beliefs.

[00:18:45] Helen Eimers: And I came out and I said, "How do I do this?" I have goosebumps right now. I was like, "How can I learn how to do this?" Because this changed my life, and it will change everyone's life who is in connection with that. So first, what hypnotherapy, the form of hypnotherapy that I do is not, [00:19:00] is I do not snap my fingers.

[00:19:02] Helen Eimers: I do not suggest anything. I do not make you do anything silly or crazy. The conscious heart hypnotherapy that I am trained in and that I have used all of my experience with is a very supportive, encouraging space to help you connect with your heart, with your true self, with those beliefs, to help you maybe put a name to them or see them or visualize them differently, right?

[00:19:23] Helen Eimers: How can I see that wound from a different perspective? Number one, how can I see the wound itself? And then how can I see that from a different perspective as I continue to heal? And the woman that I'm describing, that was her very first session with me, and Yes, she's done incredible work to get to that place.

[00:19:40] Helen Eimers: But many people will say "Yep, I've tried it. It doesn't work," and those thoughts alone are keeping you from healing. So- ... that's your standard. Just today I was, talking to my amplifiers about our standards that we set for ourself, AKA, little secret, your standards are your thoughts, right?

[00:19:55] Helen Eimers: And I said, you don't rise to your goals. You lower yourself to your standards." [00:20:00] So if your standard is I can't do this, or that doesn't work for me, Okay, that's the standard you've set for yourself, so do you wanna choose something differently? And I see that in those statements like that in it of themselves really just keeping people in, in a place where they are.

[00:20:17] Helen Eimers: And there's nothing wrong with that. Everyone I work with, like no one's broken. I don't have to fix you. And one of my friends who did a session, she is an incredible entrepreneur, and she said, "That wasn't anything like I thought it would be." And I said, "What'd you think it would be?"

[00:20:31] Helen Eimers: Explain to me what you expected. She said I thought you would tell me all these affirmations and, make suggestions, and you should do this." And like essentially what we do when we get into any type of work is we're like, "Oh this is gonna solve all my problems." "And it'll just be easy, and this is the fix, and this is it." But the fun thing about the conscious heart hypnotherapy is like it's the most beautiful relationship with yourself One of the most beautiful relationships with yourself that you could ever access. Because you [00:21:00] connect with those beliefs that you learned a year ago, a day ago, when you were two years old,

[00:21:07] Helen Eimers: Oh, I just have goosebumps. But like you see her in that space that she was and help to understand with compassion and love. And like what a gift to stop spending so much energy fighting that inside of you, and be able to just like break through to the next level. And this is why so many women who work with me, they're like, "I've read all the books.

[00:21:27] Helen Eimers: I know what to do. Da..." And yes, I teach strategy as well, but the hypnotherapy has really just blown things out of the water. And again, it's like we're not ripping out those beliefs. We're... There's nothing wrong with them, but you get to have a conversation with them. And so that's really what people need, and it allows them to feel heard maybe for the first time ever.

[00:21:48] Helen Eimers: And to see that. So something really shifts that no amount of journaling or personal development books could ever touch because you can't think your way there. You have to feel your way there. And that's how I provide [00:22:00] support in the therapy space.

[00:22:00] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. I was about to ask you, would you categorize it as a somatic or body-based practice?

[00:22:06] Christa Biegler, RD: But you just answered that when you said you can't think your way out of it. It's a- You said something else, which made

[00:22:12] Helen Eimers: me think- That's, you can you have to feel your way there ... feel. Yeah ... and yes, I'm a faith-based coach, and so God is at the helm of all of it. The most incredible...

[00:22:20] Helen Eimers: I could share miracle after miracle of numbers and signs and someone said during a session that let me know. Like I shared it with her after, and she's "That was my mother's birthday." I didn't know that. I just have goosies all over 'cause it's just so profound when you just allow yourself to trust yourself enough to just be there.

[00:22:38] Helen Eimers: And I tell women all the time, it's you can't mess this up. I can't mess this up. Neither one of us are in charge of this. And, just allow yourself to be here and just fully experience this moment, and that's what's really beautiful. And so many women I work with when I talk about holding hands with the enemy, one of my longterm clients just the other day, she was frustrated with her body and so we [00:23:00] were identifying what her thoughts were and her conscious thoughts, right?

[00:23:03] Helen Eimers: What do you tell yourself when you see this? And, her brain is shunning her body. Like, why did you do this? And I'm like, can we just hold hands? Can we just be friends? And we compartmentalize these different parts of us. Our physical aspects, our mental aspects, our, strategy as a mom, as a caregiver, as a business owner, we compartmentalize, and they're not playing the on the same team.

[00:23:24] Helen Eimers: Like- ... can we just hold hands with who we think is the enemy? 'Cause here's the truth about this whole title it's really not the enemy, because it's you. And so if you see yourself or feel yourself as the enemy, you're always gonna feel disconnected. You're always gonna feel friction. And we're all on this journey to let go of these things and go deeper and just allow yourself to be there.

[00:23:47] Helen Eimers: But if you think any part of you, a thought a physical part of you shouldn't be there, you're gonna spend so much of your energy trying to not make that happen when can you just hold hands? Like they say with kids, [00:24:00] like brothers and sisters, put them in the same T-shirt.

[00:24:02] Helen Eimers: Put them in the same pair of pants, and make them walk around together. You're not doing that. You're just fighting yourself u- from the inside out. We don't know we're doing this m- a lot of times. But even when I talk about it and share this concept with women, they're like, "Oh, interesting.

[00:24:15] Helen Eimers: Interesting."

[00:24:16] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, my brain makes me think of, or I think of symptoms that people have- ... and then they're fighting with their physical body- Yeah ... a lot or at war with their phys- And that can look like such a spectrum of things, but just being so angry about a symptom. And I- Yeah

[00:24:32] Christa Biegler, RD: loosely mentioned before I really notice certain shifts of people really specifically hating their bodies depending on what words I used- ... in marketing or advertising. When I had on my Instagram profile helping with bloat, I got some very specific people that were like really hated themselves.

[00:24:49] Christa Biegler, RD: Now, a moment ago you were just talking about this concept of how we limit ourselves with our standards or thoughts that this doesn't work for [00:25:00] me. And I just had a tangible example, like a very 3D example of that that came up last month. I was talking to a client, and she said, "What can I do about..."

[00:25:10] Christa Biegler, RD: And I'd worked with her for quite a while, and so what's nice about that is that you get rapport, and you've already worked through a lot of things, right? So you're just dealing with what's still here that needs that might need some support? And she said what can I do about this one symptom?"

[00:25:24] Christa Biegler, RD: And I said have you tried this and this?" And she said, "Yeah, I've tried all these things, but they only work for a day or two, and then it comes back." And I could have accepted that answer, but instead I said, "Well- When was the last time you tried some of these things that I s- suggest early on?

[00:25:39] Christa Biegler, RD: And she said when I started. I'm like, okay, so five months ago, right? And so our context in time changes what may or may not work for us, right? And I said do you think it might be worthwhile now that you're five months later and you're in a different state to maybe try those things and see if they stick better?

[00:25:56] Christa Biegler, RD: And to make it even more tangible, the conversation [00:26:00] was like itchy head and scalp dermatitis and different topicals for it, and it was like, oh, these only work for a couple days. Which I think telling you the real situation is helpful because I'm always looking for does this make sense?

[00:26:12] Christa Biegler, RD: And it's duh, of course it makes sense 'cause it's like happening from the inside out, so when you work on the inside for five months, like it's probably going to make it easier for you to go about something on the exterior. Like you're probably gonna get a little bit... my thought process would be like it would be very reasonable to expect that you're gonna get longer results.

[00:26:28] Christa Biegler, RD: So my point is that so often when we say... I just wanted to give this example. It's oh, that won't work for me. It's oh, you really could have prevented that from working for you-

...

[00:26:36] Christa Biegler, RD: Because of how you were viewing- Yeah ... that specific thing. Okay, so that doesn't work for me.

[00:26:41] Christa Biegler, RD: We're in a different place. Oh, I was thinking about how this hypnotherapy, and as you're describing it, it's like really knowing you quite well is this really beautiful evolution, and something that I've been really present to in the last year or two is how [00:27:00] God is this magical orchestra conductor of

[00:27:04] Christa Biegler, RD: it's like we talked about your story from nine years ago, almost 10 years ago really- ... with the back pain, and it's all these little... Like it started with this and then this, and we sometimes need to get these little tastes of success. But the point is that it's so cool because so often we are building skills around something that make us really qualified or exceptional at the thing we need to do later.

[00:27:26] Christa Biegler, RD: So what I'm specifically thinking about for you with this evolution is that Helen has always been a very natural doula. She knows this. But a doula means voluntary servant, and I think that comes from the nursing background. Nurses have my heart. They often are very beautiful gi- not...

[00:27:43] Christa Biegler, RD: we're not everyone's the same, but lot of like, beautiful giving of service often putting themselves second. I'm not saying that's a good thing and that's how it should be. What I'm saying is it's very natural for her to overflow as a doula, to care for someone, to pre-create safety [00:28:00] in a state is what I'm really trying to say.

[00:28:01] Christa Biegler, RD: And without those skills and those attributes, it would be very hard for someone to be in a session, a hypnotherapy session, and be able to access those things, because safety comes first.

[00:28:13] Christa Biegler, RD: We must have this safety state. And so one of the reasons that perhaps you are able to access things with people is because, can we provide this safety state overall?

[00:28:22] Christa Biegler, RD: So those are some of the things that were coming up for me. And then finally, when you were talking about holding hands with the enemy, that was not where I thought you were going with that. I thought it was gonna be ho- holding hands with the other big enemy, right? But I guess in a way it's the same, right?

[00:28:36] Christa Biegler, RD: Like, when we are hating something about ourselves and we're, like, wonderfully made, and our body is just trying to help us quite often, right?

[00:28:45] Christa Biegler, RD: And when we're in a hateful state toward... And it's just an opportunity, 'cause I'm not an exception, right? I was, like, thinking of things I was frustrated about in my own life this week, and I was like it's not really helpful."

[00:28:57] Helen Eimers: Yeah. It is like- Not helpful ... I asked someone the other [00:29:00] day he, has a daughter who had to go through surgery for breast cancer, and then he has a grandson who was in the NICU, and I said "So tell me about your faith." And he said I wouldn't say I'm atheist, but I don't really believe.

[00:29:12] Helen Eimers: Like, how can you believe?" And I said really we have two options in life. We can be angry and bitter and frustrated and feel like this was done to us, or we could choose to have faith and hope and love and say, You expend so much energy with the first one. That anger and I mean, I have seen people very close to me in my life go down go to great extent, y- spending and exerting energy on hate and frustration and comparison and blame. It's exhausting. And then I surround myself with others who just choose to have this faith and hope and love whatever is happening.

[00:29:51] Helen Eimers: And yes, God definitely is the conductor in this evolution, has been incredibly beautiful. And being a natural doula, yes, he has given me a gift to [00:30:00] sit with people, to hold space for them to love, right? I will say something, and someone very close to me once said that's not how I see it."

[00:30:07] Helen Eimers: And I just like... It's just oh my God, thank you, God, for blessing me with to let go of this judgment and blessing me with these eyes of love. And I love to have props. I don't know if anyone can see this. I don't know what, where this is gonna go, but I have these heart-shaped glasses, right?

[00:30:21] Helen Eimers: Like- ... these are the ways I activate. Like, how can I see myself and others through the lens of love? This is one of my keynote speeches, along with many others, of, you are the gift, and these messages that have come to me from the Creator, which are so beautiful. And so yeah, when we hold hands with the enemy, right?

[00:30:38] Helen Eimers: And the enemy puts the thoughts in our brain to tell us that a part of us isn't good enough or not doing enough. And so really the truth is when we see it differently through the lens of love, and how can we do that? And that takes intention, and that takes making choices, and that takes, you- Taking action to create that momentum, and for me [00:31:00] the simplest, most beautiful I guess practice that I developed was gratitude.

[00:31:05] Helen Eimers: There's a gratitude wall behind me. This came from my retreat a few months ago. We had a gratitude wall. And I did the same gratitude journal for three years straight. This is like a six-month journal. A coach of mine had recommended it. It's four prompts. It's called The Five Minute Gratitude Journal by Sonja...

[00:31:20] Helen Eimers: I can't remember. She's a PhD. And in psychology. And I just kept buying them over and over, and what I didn't realize is that I did these, like I have a stack of these. And this was like a daily prayer. Oh my gosh, if I can just shift, because I grew up in a very loving household, but I also grew up with people who are very close-minded, right?

[00:31:39] Helen Eimers: So it's like we just always focus on, and if you read The Psychology of Money, he talks about this, how we as a society, we focus on the hard things, right? The drama. The terrible weather that's coming, right? But are we focusing on opportunistic things? Rarely ever, and if someone mentions that, most people are like, "No, that's not true."

[00:31:59] Helen Eimers: But they will [00:32:00] believe the crazy, scary, fear-based things that people put out in the world. And so I just choose to see it differently, and it's just such a gift. I spend so much less energy trying to fight or- ... fix or prepare or worry about what's gonna happen, and I love, love, love to give that gift to the women I support.

[00:32:20] Christa Biegler, RD: And you wouldn't even be able to be aware of that if, maybe it hadn't been a shift for you. I think it's for all of us, like we have to shift that very consciously. You have to practice that. Yeah. And there's probably lots of ways to get there. But if you hadn't spent- observed, one, how maybe your clients and maybe if you're also a mirror how maybe yourself at some point had given a lot of that energy away, it would be hard for you to maybe even appreciate where that is.

[00:32:48] Christa Biegler, RD: I actually was cleaning my other office yesterday and I picked up a piece of paper, and it was one of my favorite exercises about what's draining my cup and filling my cup.

[00:32:58] Helen Eimers: Yeah.

[00:32:59] Christa Biegler, RD: And it, [00:33:00] I don't know if it was from early 2024. Like, why was it there? I had all kinds of papers that need to be thrown away.

[00:33:06] Christa Biegler, RD: But I kept

[00:33:07] Helen Eimers: it. Of course it was there.

[00:33:07] Christa Biegler, RD: Everything. I kept it because I, it was able to then look at it. I almost need a specific journal for that, right? But and I think it's fun. I've gotten away from handwriting as much because I had for years so many notebooks of so many notes, and then I don't access them again.

[00:33:23] Christa Biegler, RD: And so I've gotten away from that. But I've been intrigued at how much more the brain lights up when you actually hand write. Yeah. And so I always hand write these lists, but doesn't mean I have a consistent place I'm keeping track of them. But my point is I actually hung it up on the side of my-

[00:33:35] Christa Biegler, RD: Bookshelf because it was like the things that were really draining my energy, I had to take such a concerted effort to move those out of my life, and it took me much longer than I would've wanted, as it always does. Yeah. Everything takes a different... we are layer- Like, we will always have things that we are unpeeling, et cetera.

[00:33:54] Christa Biegler, RD: But I was so grateful in that moment for these things that were no longer... I didn't even have to write down [00:34:00] because... And I think so often our memories are very short, right? And so we often-

[00:34:03] Helen Eimers: Oh, my gosh, we love to forget. We love to forget.

[00:34:05] Christa Biegler, RD: We love to forget.

[00:34:06] Helen Eimers: And now I'm gonna-

[00:34:07] Christa Biegler, RD: Anything ...

[00:34:08] Helen Eimers: Yeah, our beautiful brains just- Anything we've solved.

[00:34:10] Helen Eimers: Love to forget, and I thank you. You were the one that introduced me to that practice, and I share that, at retreats and in my coaching spaces, too. And what I always find with myself and others is that most of the time the things on the side of what's draining you are 100% things that are of my doing.

[00:34:28] Helen Eimers: Like just saying yes to things that drain me, right? Like, These are like... I'm like, "Oh, wow." And when we can take ownership of that, and you know this story, but your you probably know a piece of this. Maybe I haven't said it quite like this, but your brother has saved my life, and God put him in my path for a reason, because he was the one that gave me my first personal development book.

[00:34:49] Helen Eimers: And at that moment, he came home from a conference, and he's a phone guy, the cable guy, 'cause I love Jim Carrey. But he was at a ph- He was at a phone... we actually have a pact that if Jim asks me to marry him, we'll just have [00:35:00] to... he, Corey could probably live with us, but, ... we're, I'm gonna hang out with Jim.

[00:35:03] Helen Eimers: It's my kids even know this, okay? So anyway, Anyway, so he got home from this conference, and he said, "Oh my gosh, there was this amazing speaker, and I really think you'll like him, so I got you the book." And at that point in my life there was nothing wrong with me. Yeah. Zero. There's nothing wrong with me.

[00:35:19] Helen Eimers: So he hands me this book by Andy Core called Change Your Day, Not Your Life, and I was livid. I was like- Oh ... "Who do you think you are?" There is nothing wrong with me. What are you talking about? Eventually I read the book, and it did change my life, because as high achievers, as women of where our worth is in our work, we wanna do everything right now all the time, and if we don't, we're comparing ourselves, and we should have done this and we could have done this.

[00:35:39] Helen Eimers: And so we get into this blah, and then it literally leads us to overwork and burnout, which I had done as a nurse, or it leads you to freeze, right? Like- ... "Oh I can't do anything." And so going back to that natural doula and working as a nurse, I was burnt out, which is why part of why I'm such a [00:36:00] great coach, 'cause I know that and I know that capacity of holding space.

[00:36:03] Helen Eimers: And at my retreat a few months ago that was our main thing is building that capacity from the inside out. People get so scared that things will steal their energy-

...

[00:36:14] Helen Eimers: That's not possible if you fix the leaks. If you fix the leaks and you build it from the inside out with self-love and having conversations with these thoughts and these inner beliefs that you have.

[00:36:27] Helen Eimers: But until you do that, like that's one of the steps to building up capacity so that you build it from the inside out, all of these inherent things that God has given you, and it just naturally overflows. I do more things now in my life than I have ever done, but I am less burned out. I am less stressed. I have so much love, and I have so much more to give.

[00:36:49] Helen Eimers: And you all know people like that, that are just contagious, and they're like, " how do you manage all this? Wait, I like tried to, fold a basket of clothes the other day, and it just didn't work," right? And so you know these [00:37:00] people, and what's different about them is that they've done this work, and they've built the capacity, and that's what I help women walk through.

[00:37:07] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. I was just interviewing someone who's a classically trained therapist but then became a naturopath, and we were talking about window of tolerance. And there's a lot of ways we can dance through some of these topics, but- ... you know my co- support person in my business, Jenna, she's a very like wise old she's 10 years younger than me.

[00:37:26] Christa Biegler, RD: Very- she's definitely an oldest child. She's a wise old soul.

[00:37:30] Christa Biegler, RD: And she really introduced me to the concept of building capacity, I don't know how many years ago. But you know how sometimes you hear something and it just like your brain just hangs on that hook- Yeah

[00:37:39] Christa Biegler, RD: forever? And so it makes me, I wish we could have a conversation with the listener right now, right? To ask them what do they think about capacity? What do they think it means to them and Like, how are they creating more capacity to hold what they need in their own lives?

[00:37:54] Christa Biegler, RD: What I hear you say about that story of Corey coming home from the conference, I actually didn't know that story. That [00:38:00] he gave you that first personal development book.

[00:38:02] Christa Biegler, RD: And I wonder what year it was. 2015-ish, something

[00:38:06] Helen Eimers: like that? Probably around 2016. Probably about the same time had to convince me to invest in myself.

[00:38:11] Helen Eimers: $100 for my health. And-

[00:38:13] Christa Biegler, RD: Aren't we funny characters?

[00:38:15] Helen Eimers: Yeah. For sure.

[00:38:16] Christa Biegler, RD: So I understand. And I don't know why I was so convicted as well, but I remember like

[00:38:21] Helen Eimers: feeling very convicted. Because you knew. You knew it would change my life. Like you, and here's the thing about coaching is like good coaches they believe in you more than you believe in yourself, period.

[00:38:31] Helen Eimers: Every good coach I've had is like, "Oh yeah, she believes in me even when I don't believe in myself." It's helpful ... and you did that for me, so thank you. What's that?

[00:38:37] Christa Biegler, RD: No I'm grateful to know that. Yeah. And so what I hear in him giving you that book and this is, I think I hear this because it's something I'm interested in or aspirational to.

[00:38:48] Christa Biegler, RD: I'm aspirational to having a cup that's overflowing.

[00:38:52] Christa Biegler, RD: Having a cup that is so full that it can overflow to others. Because when I was trying to work from an empty cup, and that's that whole energy vampire [00:39:00] balance exercise is like it helps you see and become aware of why you're feeling drained potentially.

[00:39:06] Christa Biegler, RD: And like you said, it's can be things of our own doing. I think I will just note that there's a trap- very often as well. And hopefully when I say it, it'll make sense. There's a trap that we sometimes fall into where we think that someone else is responsible for how we feel, right?

[00:39:21] Christa Biegler, RD: And we're like, "Oh, but they're doing it this way, and this way." And it's always so interesting to me, and I like to make sure I take a position of curiosity, and what if," "this works?" I have seen the funniest things happen in my relationships when only I have changed, right?

[00:39:36] Christa Biegler, RD: It's oh-

[00:39:37] Helen Eimers: 100... Everyone wants to change someone else because- ... that's how we feel, right? But how you change someone else is you change yourself, period.

[00:39:44] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah.

[00:39:44] Helen Eimers: End

[00:39:45] Christa Biegler, RD: of story. And when you are filling your cup, And I think one of the thing, there's several maybe tangible amazing takeaways from this little story, is that I feel that he had gone to this conference, and he had gotten poured into, and his cup was overflowing.

[00:39:59] Christa Biegler, RD: And [00:40:00] because he loves you, he was like, "Oh, I just wanna pour a little bit out to you and share it with you." And I think that it's always really good to remind ourselves of these things, because I actually had a very similar catalyst experience. Mine was a little bit different. My dear friend that was in my wedding, I think she accidentally anonymously sent me this book.

[00:40:18] Christa Biegler, RD: But I got this book in the mail, The Mindset by Carol Dweck. Ooh, I love that. And I only read half of it. Love that book. But it was essentially like, is your cup empty or full, right? And how you look through things, it's that's it. And that book changed my life, but it was also ominous, 'cause it just showed up without a return address.

[00:40:36] Helen Eimers: With no note. I don't think it was me. I don't... But I do love that book. I referenced it in the very first speech, public speech I did when I was a coach, like 12 years ago, 11 years ago or something.

[00:40:45] Christa Biegler, RD: Oh, so funny. Yeah. But literally just that concept. And now I know teachers like us, bring it into their classrooms, et cetera.

[00:40:50] Christa Biegler, RD: But to be honest, I had no awareness of personal development until it was introduced to me, right? Yeah. And this is where sometimes things like network marketing [00:41:00] are not all bad, because they're, like, trying to form a human. And I was just very lost with new toddlers at the time, trying to find myself- Yeah

[00:41:08] Christa Biegler, RD: right at that time in general. But anyway, similar story where That book. But, I think it's so beautiful, again, since we have such short memories, to remind ourselves that so often it's a little thing. Because it was a little thing for my friend to send me a $15 book. It was a little thing for your husband to pick up this book.

[00:41:23] Christa Biegler, RD: It didn't have to change your life. It was a little thing for, There's a story my friend Jen talks about her faith story and how it started. And it was like, I didn't really do anything, so I don't take any credit, but it was just like sometimes you don't realize how little actions you do.

[00:41:39] Christa Biegler, RD: Or maybe the real through point, the underline-able part, is, like, how can I show up in love for somebody?

[00:41:47] Helen Eimers: It

[00:41:47] Christa Biegler, RD: doesn't have to be this big, open, emphatic thing.

[00:41:50] Helen Eimers: No.

[00:41:50] Christa Biegler, RD: Doesn't have to be emphatic. And again, this is hard for me. This is an area where you're so much more emboldened and more capable, and I'm grow- [00:42:00] I'm, like, at still in my toddler phase of loving others and filling that cup, which is why having a cup that's overflowing is my aspiration, right?

[00:42:08] Christa Biegler, RD: I'm not always there, but I am 100 times more there than I

[00:42:12] Helen Eimers: was- Oh, and I love- ... a

[00:42:12] Christa Biegler, RD: year or two

[00:42:13] Helen Eimers: ago ... just showering Krista with hugs- ... whenever I see her. She, her family was never really the hugging type, but I sure am. So I remember giving your dad a hug for the first time, and- ... where do I put my hands?

[00:42:24] Helen Eimers: And so now- ... now I freely- This is

[00:42:26] Christa Biegler, RD: my first hug.

[00:42:28] Helen Eimers: I freely give hugs, right? So it's amazing. So that, when you were saying that, it made me think of the ripple effect. And just last night as I'm walking with Corey and our six-year-old daughter Ronnie was riding her bike, we were talking about the ripple effect, which was one of the themes at the retreat.

[00:42:44] Helen Eimers: Ronnie, if you smile that someone else might smile, and someone else might smile, and that might change... That might save someone's life, right? And so we talked about the ripple effect, and when you say something that isn't kind or that you wouldn't say to someone else that also has a ripple effect on people.

[00:42:58] Helen Eimers: And just remember the ripple effect that [00:43:00] you carry. And I had to pull up the picture because at the retreat I talked about building capacity and stopping the leaks. And the most beautiful part about my coaching is that most of it is, yes, . i have a plan and I have a script, but most of it, the best things come unscripted, right?

[00:43:14] Helen Eimers: I'm up there and I'm asking the women, "Hey what do you already have within you? What do you inherently have within you?" So that's in the middle of the container. I don't know if you can see that. But in the middle of the container, we naturally have a spark, energy, presence, time, instinct- responsibility, basic needs, safety, knowledge, talents, gifts, resources. And then what creates a leak out of all of those things? So this is when we talk about building capacity. Here's the leaks that will continue to leak those things that are in... These things are inherently in you.

[00:43:45] Helen Eimers: I want you to let go of the illusion that you don't have these things. You already have them. The goal is to just be aware of what's leaking, right? People pleasing, distractions, inconsistency, unsolicited help, right? When we are- ... jumping in, right? We're trying to be the martyr. Martyrdom, that's the [00:44:00] next one.

[00:44:00] Helen Eimers: Burnout, doubt, overwhelm, frustration, avoidance, over-committing comparison- Judgment. Those are the things that will leak- ... our energy, that will leak out those natural inherent things that we have. And for me, martyrdom was a big one. I was like I'm the only one that can do it, and I'm the only one that can do it good," right?

[00:44:18] Helen Eimers: Ooh. And because no one else is doing this. And so I remember, being the one who threw all the baby showers and bridal showers, and nobody else is gonna do this, And I remember very specifically things I did where I would not ask for help, and when someone tried to help I was, like, angry because I'm, like, already resentful that no one's helping me even though I didn't ask for help, right?

[00:44:37] Helen Eimers: Anyone ever had this pattern happen? Yeah. And so very resentful. And then they'd come and help, but of course I wasn't gonna let them help, 'cause they should have been helping, and of course they can't do it like I can, so no thanks. And it was just this cycle that I had to let go of. I wasn't even sharing any of the things inside the container there, any of these inherent things, because I was so busy letting them leak out with all of the things that were stealing [00:45:00] those.

[00:45:00] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. You know what? I hadn't really- ... thought of that example or like, a very good specific example for martyrdom, but that so makes so much sense. I usually think about that from the perspective of the woman who's taking on everything and carrying everything, and from a different perspective, but I never really thought of it as martyrdom, and it ma- just, it makes so much sense, right?

[00:45:21] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah.

[00:45:21] Helen Eimers: And so- And I was raised in a household, my dad is a professional volunteer. He will drop everything, help anyone, do anything, but when it come... I love him so much but I've, I don't know if I've, his inner capacity, right? And he gives. So I was raised like that. And then, of course, you become a nurse, and you are trained to save people.

[00:45:39] Helen Eimers: You are trained to help them as well. And one of my, an obituary that changed my life, that sounds weird- ... maybe, but a very prominent businessman in town died by suicide, and his daughter wrote his obituary. And the very last sentence of his obituary, everyone was in shock that this happened, and the last sentence said, "He was so busy taking [00:46:00] care of others that he forgot to take care of himself."

[00:46:04] Helen Eimers: So how often do we do that?

[00:46:08] Christa Biegler, RD: Oh, often. And I wanna give the respectful pause here for that to sink in. And I just have to mention that very often there are so many careers but nurses especially, I always-- I tell wh- whomever it comes up with that my nurses have the highest tolerance for pain.

[00:46:31] Christa Biegler, RD: They often feel guilty, receiving the help that they have asked for. They'll say- ... "I don't know if this is really bad enough. Should I even be here?" I'm like this is terrible,"

[00:46:41] Helen Eimers: yeah, we have the kids that walk around with broken legs for three weeks.

[00:46:44] Christa Biegler, RD: They're just so used to taking care of, fires.

[00:46:47] Christa Biegler, RD: And it's hard for them to turn themselves. And what comes to mind here is it was pretty transformational to learn about ma- feminine and masculine energies. And that men and women can oscillate between them. But so often, and especially [00:47:00] when we think about just relationship dynamics not to get off on a whole different tangent, but it reminds me of it, is like when we're constantly pouring out and not receiving as women, that's another cause for our burnout, and it's so common, right?

[00:47:12] Christa Biegler, RD: And it's such a common reason for us to have rifts in our relationship. And so often, especially high achieving high functioning women who are doing a lot of things, right? They're trying to also be very masculine in their home life. And I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's pretty neutral.

[00:47:27] Christa Biegler, RD: But it's like you gotta have a little bit of polarity Yeah ... someone's gotta be able to receive, and sometimes you've gotta be able to receive. And sometimes it's kinda bonkers, right? It's like we struggle to receive the help- Yeah ... and

[00:47:37] Helen Eimers: the love.

[00:47:37] Christa Biegler, RD: I

[00:47:38] Helen Eimers: remember that when I first learned that the feminine energy is receiving, I was like, "No way," right?

[00:47:42] Helen Eimers: That was my first- I know. I did- I thought too ... I felt

[00:47:44] Christa Biegler, RD: the same way.

[00:47:44] Helen Eimers: Who said that, right? Yeah. But receiving, you know- Best friend. I have many... Yeah. Wait, who wrote this, a man? Sorry, though. But anyway, it's you talk about curiosity, and like how can we be curious?

[00:47:56] Helen Eimers: If your listeners leave with anything, it's like how can I be curious about [00:48:00] what this could look like through a different lens? Because you could have a billion people in a room, and there's a circumstance that happens, and everyone would have a different thought. Everyone would have a different standard.

[00:48:10] Helen Eimers: So what if I just put on the lens of love? What if I just put on the lens of this circumstance doesn't need to mean anything about me, but we always make it mean something about me? And also being resourceful. And so you had mentioned curiosity and being so resourceful. And being resourceful is also receiving, right?

[00:48:29] Helen Eimers: I love, like my friends will call me and they're like, "You're the most resourceful person I know. Do you know someone who..." And I was like, "Yeah, sure." And if I can't figure it out, I figure it out, and that is receiving. Receiving help is like figuring it out and asking people and getting curious.

[00:48:44] Helen Eimers: And so there's lots of different ways to receive other than just simply sit on the couch while I clean your house. The, that's not the only it's just kinda like when people are like, "Oh yeah, I'm resting, so I, slept in." It's oh, you can actually do, I like to call it active personal development, [00:49:00] which is like you're actively reading, you're actively learning, right?

[00:49:03] Helen Eimers: So many of us are like, yep, self-care, nails, bath sleeping. Fine, do all those things, but actually some of those things don't give you energy. But-

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[00:49:12] Helen Eimers: A way to activate is that active self-care, which is learning and being resourceful and figuring things out. Yeah.

[00:49:18] Christa Biegler, RD: my tangible example of this was when I kept doing that exercise and realizing that, like

[00:49:23] Christa Biegler, RD: one of the reasons podcasts light me up is because often I'm learning something, right? It's not just me pouring out the whole time. And so I was most lit up after podcast interviews, and so I realized oh yeah, I'm definitely a lifelong learner. I always wanna know all the things. And I think, again, I attract those people as well, which yay, let's have a club.

[00:49:43] Christa Biegler, RD: Yay ... and so when I realized that, it was like I was able to notice how to balance my own energy a little bit and stop those leaks because if I had been doing things where I was pouring out for a while, maybe I could then sub in something that is cup filling, which is the dance for all of us.

[00:49:59] Christa Biegler, RD: But essentially what [00:50:00] you just said, which was like, oh, when I'm tapped out for the day, sometimes I can still take in something. It doesn't have to be something really scientific or anything like that. It can just be fun. For example, I'm in this style class right now, and we have, like our fifth of succession tonight, and it's like I gotta do my homework, but also I'm like, isn't that cool that I can even do that?

[00:50:19] Christa Biegler, RD: That I even have the capacity- Yeah ... and the space to do that? And I think it will be fun, and it's like I'm working on a different aspect of myself that really does show up in so many ways of how we identify, right? Where we go to the closet and it's I have nothing to wear. It's like, why is that?

[00:50:33] Christa Biegler, RD: Is it because I'm trying to dress like someone that I'm not, right? Yeah. And I'm not showing up. And so it's seems shallow, but also not. It's like actually it's quite identity work if we think about it. Yeah. So side notes, stuff- Love it ... et cetera. We covered a lot today. It's hilarious. We could talk-

[00:50:50] Helen Eimers: We could talk forever.

[00:50:51] Christa Biegler, RD: I know. Capacity. So the things that we're avoiding need our attention.

[00:50:56] Helen Eimers: Yeah.

[00:50:56] Christa Biegler, RD: Avoidance keeps things, keeps those [00:51:00] patterns and beliefs as the enemy in the driver's seat, right? And so recognizing that part of you without trying to fix or flee them, which is such a beautiful thing, stopping, right?

[00:51:11] Christa Biegler, RD: Talked about energy leaks and capacity. So many things. If you could leave listeners with one thing to support them if they felt that they resonated with this episode, felt called out, what would you wanna leave them with a statement or something you wanna share with them? And then where can people find you online?

[00:51:30] Helen Eimers: Great question. So what I would leave all of your listeners with would really just be where have you been... Where could you hold hands with yourself? Maybe a thought, maybe a part of your body, maybe this could be anything. Where have you been avoiding? And I think the best analogy, like I gave today, is when we have children and we want them to get along, we sometimes do crazy things like, "Here, sit in the same room and, talk."

[00:51:57] Helen Eimers: Yet we don't do that for ourself and our person. And [00:52:00] just honoring that and say, where could I just simply close my eyes, hold out my hand, and say, maybe your heart is hurting. Maybe you have a fear in the pit of your stomach. Maybe you have doubt. And what if you just like, "Hey, doubt, I'm just gonna hold your hand for today.

[00:52:15] Helen Eimers: I don't have to fix you. There's nothing wrong with you, but I'm just gonna hold your hand." And also just practicing that building capacity from the inside out so that no one can take your energy, because the truth is no one actually can. That's just a fear that we have. But when we build capacity, we just function and overflow all of the time.

[00:52:34] Helen Eimers: So you are not your enemy. You're the most beautiful thing that you get to coexist with, so honor that.

[00:52:42] Christa Biegler, RD: Where can people find you online?

[00:52:44] Helen Eimers: You can find me online. My website is heleneimers.com, H-E-L-E-N-E-I-M-E-R-S. I'm also on social media, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn. I probably hang out most on Facebook. I love to share my story.

[00:52:57] Helen Eimers: I love to connect. I love to [00:53:00] do fun, silly things with my kids. You can catch me out on the river, of course, in the summer. And sometimes you can see Chris and I together.

[00:53:07] Christa Biegler, RD: Hopefully more often.

[00:53:09] Christa Biegler, RD: All right. Thanks so much for coming on today.

[00:53:11] Helen Eimers: Thanks.